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Offline clebin

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Re: Amiga Inc ALIVE! Fixed XE and good news :-)
« on: November 24, 2004, 08:40:34 PM »
@Cymric

"It's good to see the ole' platform moving along, but I cannot help but wonder what the use is when everything shown can already be done on at least a dozen other major platforms with a much larger user base. Oh well, logic can only take you so far."

It's simple really. Operating systems offer so many more features these days but it's still the simple ones which users need and desire most.

It was a few releases before Mac OS X was an OS that people could use full-time. In the beginning it lacked CD burning, DVD playback, printer sharing and other things. Even OS 4 has some of them!

When the Finder gets simple read & write FTP support there'll be a huge buzz - Windows and Linux folks just take it for granted.

You have to put yourself in the position of someone constantly have to work around annoying omissions. Let's say Microsoft introduce pop-up blocking into Internet Explorer. Every other browser has it, but if you're forced to use IE by your company say, you'd be punching the air.

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Re: Amiga Inc ALIVE! Fixed XE and good news :-)
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2004, 01:26:04 AM »
@Cymric

Logic only goes so far, but that doesn't make a decision based on emotion, gut instinct or something else subjective illogical. You seem to know the answer, but don't really understand it.

You know what your preferences are when you find yourself almost involuntarily doing something. It's not something you can make grand statements on an internet forum about.

If you're looking for someone to say "yes, I admit it, the logical thing is to buy a PC. I must be stupid, but I still prefer using an Amiga for the same things. I can explain some of it, but not all of it" then fine. Does that make you feel superior because you're so efficient and logical about everything?

Taking my earlier point about working around problems. Yes, for a while I dual-booted my Mac and ran apps in Classic. But I still found myself booting OS X because the things it COULD do it did in a more pleasing way.

And it obviously worked out, because now I have no need for anything else. I even use it at work and it still puts a smile on my face where Windows makes me frown. I think it's the best OS in the world right now.

Obviously some of us see OS 4 the same way and the hardships of owning 2 machines or dual-booting are hardly the end of the world.

Let's say OS 4 improves, the apps you want come out, the hardware falls in price and you can put it all into an A1200-style Amiga Fantasy case and plug it into you  TV. Even you, Cymric, might end up buying one and enjoying it.

It's all very well you jumping on board then, but don't go criticising the people who are putting the money in now, keeping it afloat and trying to make that future happen.

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Re: Amiga Inc ALIVE! Fixed XE and good news :-)
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2004, 02:02:43 AM »

It's usually been OK for me, although it's a real pain when Explorer locks up. Believe me though, OS X's FTP support is even worse and also locks up the Finder (...although it's usually easier to restart)

I don't what Microsoft's problem is, but Apple have neglected the Finder shamefully. They're not small companies - you'd think they could get FTP right!

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Re: Amiga Inc ALIVE! Fixed XE and good news :-)
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2004, 06:50:57 PM »
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That would make sense if you were investing in a superior platform to what is out there right now... But as it is you are keeping afloat a system that is (in hardware terms) several generations behind, and much more expensive than currently available and supporting a software platform that suffers from a vendor lock in...

While I agree with supporting the software platform (ie OS4), I can't agree with supporting the museum exhibt that is the A1.



Unfortunately supporting OS 4 means running it on such a machine. I'm sure Eyetech would want to sell a more powerful machine and have the numbers to sell it cheaply - I don't mind supporting the company that makes the AmigaOne even if the hardware is....um, not perfect.

As for vendor lock-in, well hopefully we'll see OS 4 on other platforms in time. It's not tied to AmigaOne and I know Hyperion would like to see it.

Your reasons not to buy one are perfectly legitimate. I respect that fully.

Chris