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Offline don27dogTopic starter

A3000T Help
« on: October 21, 2015, 02:05:39 AM »
I finally got around to replacing the blown power supply in my 3000T with an ATX power supply. All seemed to go well until I tried to boot. I hear the HD spin up but I have a black screen staring back at me. After a couple of tries I went into early startup and sure enough the hard drive was there. I then tried booting with no start up sequence. When I type loadwb I get a system request saying "please insert volume ENV in any drive". I click retry several times to no avail. Click cancel and I am stuck at a command prompt. I then try two or three more HD's and another controller with the same results. I then booted to workbench off a 3.1 floppy and sure enough the HD shows and I can access all the files. After playing around for a few hours I am getting no where so I format another drive and do a fresh install of 3.1. Everything installs smoothly but when I try to reboot of the HD same results. Black screen. One more time boot with no startup sequence same system request saying "please insert volume ENV in any drive". I click cancel this time and WB loads but I have no ram ??? I reload off 3.1 floppy and I am showing 2 megs graphics and 8 megs other. I am open to any ideas as I am stumped.
Amiga 4000D Cyberstorm PPC 150Mhz, 68060 50 Mhz, 128Meg Ram, IndivisionAGA, Deneb USB Controller, Zorram 256, Os3.9/Os4.0 Classic
Amiga 3000T Warp Engine 4040, Elbox FastATA Controller, Progressive Perpherals ProRam3000 64Meg, Mediator, VoodooIII, Os3.9
 

Offline don27dogTopic starter

Re: A3000T Help
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2015, 04:03:21 AM »
I checked all voltages with multimeter before I connecting to the MB. Have not tested under load. All expansions show under early start up but I have stripped every one out with the exception of GVP SCSI controller. I have also tried booting from fastATA controller with same symptoms.
Amiga 4000D Cyberstorm PPC 150Mhz, 68060 50 Mhz, 128Meg Ram, IndivisionAGA, Deneb USB Controller, Zorram 256, Os3.9/Os4.0 Classic
Amiga 3000T Warp Engine 4040, Elbox FastATA Controller, Progressive Perpherals ProRam3000 64Meg, Mediator, VoodooIII, Os3.9
 

Offline don27dogTopic starter

Re: A3000T Help
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2015, 11:28:28 AM »
Quote from: SACC-guy;797800
When you set the drive for the 3.1 install, did you check the bootable box???

Just for my info, Why the gvp scsi controllor, why not the on board scsi?


I am using the GVP controller because it has 8 megs of ram onboard. Years ago I tried adding zipram to the motherboard and either the ram is faulty or I don't have it configured properly but either way the machine has booted for years without the onboard zips.

Yes all drives I have been trying are checked as bootable and show in early startup as bootable.
Amiga 4000D Cyberstorm PPC 150Mhz, 68060 50 Mhz, 128Meg Ram, IndivisionAGA, Deneb USB Controller, Zorram 256, Os3.9/Os4.0 Classic
Amiga 3000T Warp Engine 4040, Elbox FastATA Controller, Progressive Perpherals ProRam3000 64Meg, Mediator, VoodooIII, Os3.9
 

Offline don27dogTopic starter

Re: A3000T Help
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2015, 11:31:40 AM »
Quote from: Motormouth;797801
I would try to test under load, and feel if the connectors on the ATX adapter ends (either the motherboard side or ATX side) are getting hot.  This may seem like a little thing but this could be something as simple as a continuity problem.

Also do you have another ATX power supple to try?  Some of the older or  cheaper supplies have issues with proper voltage or noisy voltage.  I don't know how sensitive the A3000T motherboard would be.

I also suggest looking for blown Caps on the A3000T.  The old power supply may have damaged a cap or two when it blew.


I will check caps when I get home tonight. The original power supply died when two cards connected to the mediator shorted against each other.
Amiga 4000D Cyberstorm PPC 150Mhz, 68060 50 Mhz, 128Meg Ram, IndivisionAGA, Deneb USB Controller, Zorram 256, Os3.9/Os4.0 Classic
Amiga 3000T Warp Engine 4040, Elbox FastATA Controller, Progressive Perpherals ProRam3000 64Meg, Mediator, VoodooIII, Os3.9
 

Offline don27dogTopic starter

Re: A3000T Help
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2015, 11:35:21 AM »
Quote from: Amiga_CDTV;797803
Good job on the PSU, I am also running my A3000T on an ATX supply.

Depending on which SCSI controller(s) you use, you should see if they are all terminated properly.

You can 'assign env: ram:' before loadwb to get pass that requester.


I will try assigning env again tonight but I think I have tried that already. What I can't figure out is I have ram when I boot from floppy but when I boot from HD memory is gone.
Amiga 4000D Cyberstorm PPC 150Mhz, 68060 50 Mhz, 128Meg Ram, IndivisionAGA, Deneb USB Controller, Zorram 256, Os3.9/Os4.0 Classic
Amiga 3000T Warp Engine 4040, Elbox FastATA Controller, Progressive Perpherals ProRam3000 64Meg, Mediator, VoodooIII, Os3.9
 

Offline don27dogTopic starter

Re: A3000T Help
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2015, 12:12:15 AM »
Thank you for the responses. I am only using the GVP controller temporarily  because it has a 4 pin molex connector I can use to power the hd until I can get an adapter to connect to whatever the name of the new connectors on the atx supply are. I have zorram 256k, progressive perferial proram 3000, or warpengine 4040 I can use as a source of ram in the future. Also I have 3 known working installs of plain 3.1, 3.1 classic wb and 3.9 on 50 pin SCSI drives. I have a ton of ide drives laying around but none are clearly marked what is on them so I have avoided try to boot off fastATA until I know the new PS is working. Hopefully my daughter will go to bed shortly and I can continue testing some more tonight. Thanks again for the responses. Keep them coming. I will let you know how I make out with it.
Amiga 4000D Cyberstorm PPC 150Mhz, 68060 50 Mhz, 128Meg Ram, IndivisionAGA, Deneb USB Controller, Zorram 256, Os3.9/Os4.0 Classic
Amiga 3000T Warp Engine 4040, Elbox FastATA Controller, Progressive Perpherals ProRam3000 64Meg, Mediator, VoodooIII, Os3.9
 

Offline don27dogTopic starter

Re: A3000T Help
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2015, 12:59:49 AM »
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;797867
Probably SATA power connectors.  These are what I use to convert:

http://www.neweggbusiness.com/product/product.aspx?item=9b-12-816-038


Thanks Mike. Yes that is what I need.
Amiga 4000D Cyberstorm PPC 150Mhz, 68060 50 Mhz, 128Meg Ram, IndivisionAGA, Deneb USB Controller, Zorram 256, Os3.9/Os4.0 Classic
Amiga 3000T Warp Engine 4040, Elbox FastATA Controller, Progressive Perpherals ProRam3000 64Meg, Mediator, VoodooIII, Os3.9
 

Offline don27dogTopic starter

Re: A3000T Help
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2015, 04:32:33 PM »
I found a SATA to molex adapter and had some time to work on this this morning and I finally got it sorted. I removed all zip ram, removed 040, and all cards from the system and went back to the onboard scsi and it booted from HD first try. I will no try adding pieces back one at a time. Thank you for all the suggestions.
« Last Edit: October 24, 2015, 04:39:26 PM by don27dog »
Amiga 4000D Cyberstorm PPC 150Mhz, 68060 50 Mhz, 128Meg Ram, IndivisionAGA, Deneb USB Controller, Zorram 256, Os3.9/Os4.0 Classic
Amiga 3000T Warp Engine 4040, Elbox FastATA Controller, Progressive Perpherals ProRam3000 64Meg, Mediator, VoodooIII, Os3.9