Do you have military grade chips in your Amiga?

[iamaboringperson]

N7VQM wrote:

DoomMaster wrote:
There are 4 military spec Amiga custom chips on eBay right now.  Go have a look.     :-D

Are you refering to these?
Agnus
Denise
Paula
8520

If so, then I HIGHLY doubt these are MIL-SPEC parts.  It's much more likely they are in a cer-dip package simply because they have high power disipation like the good old VIC in my C64.  Why go through all the trouble of designing a part that can operate from -55C to +125C when the part will never be subjected to these extreams?

You have to remember that these chips where designed and built in the early eighties.  They had alot of transistors in them for the time.

Too bad locating a datasheet for these components is neigh on impossible.  Anybody have the foggiest clue where one might be sourced?

Yes!! YES!!!
:-D

[iamaboringperson]

huronking wrote:
No mil-spec ICs here, but I am looking for a girl with a
Kevlar-reinforced bra.

Just make sure you wont need an industrial strength condom! ;-)

[iamaboringperson]

Actually, my '030 CPU and it's FPU have ceramic housings.

And now that I think of it, a #### load of pentiums and 486 have ceramic housing also.
Mil-Spec? bullshit!

[iamaboringperson]

@"DoomMaster"

They looked just like what was pictured in those old Amiga ads.

You are wrong! Perhaps they do look like the ones in the old Amiga ads, however they are not Mil-Spec. And your definition of Mil-Spec is completly wrong.  :-x

[iamaboringperson]

I want to do my entire bathroom in old 040 tiles. How neat would that be...

At least you bathroom would be bombproof! ;-)


(I just noticed your post count was 19 - That supprised me, since I thought you had posted more than that)

[iamaboringperson]

I've noticed that more people are commenting on the ceramic packaging than the gold.

Chips can theoretically be mil-spec regardles of the packaging. Chips can also be commercial grade(or auto grade) without the packaging. We all know that.

Now, the gold pins being for mil-spec parts really makes me laugh. These days just about every thing in computers has gold pins. They are not all mil-spec.

[iamaboringperson]

DoomMaster wrote:
To DonnyEMU:

You do NOT know what you are talking about when it comes to these chips.     :-o

@"DoomMaster"
I'm sorry if it sounds like I'm making fun of you(I'm told that somebody around here doesn't want to be picked on) however, when most people here disagree with you, you tell them they are wrong and that you are correct.
If you really know so much about these chips, it would be nice if you could back up all of your claims. Please provide us with a URL for some(or just one) webpage(s) to back up your view.
I believe you are wrong about this whole mil-spec issue. Have you seen the page I pointed you to earlier?
That backs up what I have believed about mil-spec components for years.
I knew a guy who learned about computers from his electronics course in the navy. When it came to electronics, he was good - bloody good.
And we both agreed about the meanings of different spec.'s.
Please provide us with backup to what you are saying.
A title of a book, an ISBN, a web address, a lengthy description ... anything.

Just telling us that you know more than us doesn't prove anything.
I'm not trying to pick on you "DoomMaster", I'm just trying to get the facts straight.
 :-)

[iamaboringperson]

Standard military grade ICs can be identified by a "54" number instead of "74". In other words, it's written on the label rather than a type of packaging or pins or whatever.

Erm ... that only applies to 74' series logic chips. :-)

All other IC families have different numbering systems. :-)

[iamaboringperson]

Hmmm... I thought this thread was locked?

Anyways, I don't care for "DoomMasters" system specs.

What I want to know is why he claims he was working on "Workbench 4.0", and why he thinks it will work in some old accelerator card in his A2000.

AOS4.0 is ment to require PPC CPU's. AFAIK PPC CPU's were never available on the A2000.

[iamaboringperson]

odin wrote:
and 100!

Now where's that padlock thingy :-P.

Come on, we don't need that again. :-(