Will there every be another computer like the amiga?

[tone007]

The G4 is everywhere. this one currently is nowhere. Therefore, not a G4. Point me to a dual core G4.

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/04/08/18/motorola_developing_dual_core_powerpc_g4_mpc_7447a_successor.html

http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/overview.jsp?code=DRPPCDUALCORE

"G4" is a Mac name.  A dual-core PPC chip exists from the same manufacturer and it's compatible.  Sure, we could be pedantic and say it's not a G4, but it probably would've been if Apple hadn't abandoned the PPC architecture.

Either way, PPC, hot technology half a decade (or more) ago!

[tone007]

I doubt they would've put it a model above their expensive G5, that would've been horrible marketing.  It sounds like it was supposed to be a lower power solution for laptops, at the time "Dual G4!!" probably would've sold laptops just fine.

[tone007]

The PPC was always behind in speed.  Cheaper PCs could just do more calculations than the PPCs available at the time.  Finally Apple realized their salesmanship wouldn't make up for the fact the machines weren't as powerful as the competition and quit using them.

I've got some G4's here, they work.  That's about all I can say about them.  Need speed? G4's not your man.

[tone007]

Maybe on speed, but FP and clock for clock made up for it

No, it really doesn't.  Try converting a DVD to DiVX.  Get back to me tomorrow.

[tone007]

Nothing wrong with being slow and old at the end of the lifecycle.  I like to think of the G4s as pensioners.

[tone007]

but If I use my friends iMac G5, I can run an OS 8 app in classic without having to about it freaking out or crashing

..but you can't run an OS 10.6+ only app on it!

That's going to be more of an issue soon.  The G4s and G5s are selling for peanuts around here because people are abandoning ship to stay current.

[tone007]

Ha, I've got more G4 Macs than you, and that's after selling off all the laptops.

Hard to say no to stuff people are giving away, unfortunately they'll probably end up in the garbage when the hard drives fail and I don't feel like replacing them.

They're OK for light browsing for now, but I always move to a nice dual core machine when it's time for anything CPU intensive.

[tone007]

Like, compressing massive amounts of data or video and running virtual servers, or curing cancer.  It'll take forever to cure cancer if people keep using G4s.

..and if people are having a hard time giving them away working for $100 or less around here, I can't imagine trying to sell one with no hard drive.

[tone007]

True, most people are n00bs and don't need much in terms of power.

[tone007]

singlecore Atoms

Single core, but with hyperthreading!  Pretty nice for low power processors.

[tone007]

That's a feature, it's to scare n00bs like dreamcast off to Mac-land, "OMG it was s0 SLOW my G4 blew  it away i was scared!, PCs stink!"

Whereas any reasonable person would change the number in the registry and be done with it.  Apple never had any bugs!

[tone007]

Yes, it is reasonable that joe bloggs (i.e someone who doesn't care about computers in the slightest) has to learn the inner workings of the worlds most popular VMS clone, then start altering it to fix the developers severe fuck ups.:laughing:

..or run/wait for the auto-update patch that was probably released 5 minutes after the bug was discovered...

[tone007]

Which isn't what you wanted them to do.

I don't want them to do anything, let them keep their 30 second wait for all I care.  I was just commenting the issue was a single value (in seconds) in the registry that needed to be changed, which is as easy as typing "regedit" and typing in a new number in a box.  Scary l33t stuff, that is.

..oh, and as for Windows updates... You can take a copy of Windows XP released in 2001 and update it to the most current service pack, patches, etc, for free.  If you've got a copy of OS X from 2001, guess what, you have to buy a new version if you want something newer.  I'll take downloading a couple hundred megs in patches over spending money anyday, not that Apple doesn't make you download large patches to get from 10.4 to 10.4.11, etc.

[tone007]

A checklist!  I love checklists.

I had to intermittently backup everything and reinstall the OS to make it usable again. n00b
I had to deal with either no anti-virus (I caught conficker because of this) or enjoy AVgs nagging to update and restart n00b
I got tired of not being able to encode video in any of the open source encoders and still play my online games who the heck knows what you did wrong there
I was frustrated with WGA, "Sorry Billy, yes I pirated this version, now be a good boy and SMB and get the Fuck off my machine!" pirate
I hated the games for windows having OS locks (can run on xp, but won't without a crack, ie. Halo 2) and no, Apple and devs make sure that even some new apps run  in Panther. "some," ha.

i didn't migrate to mac to have someone nagging me that windows is better

Windows isn't better, nor is Mac.  You have a preference, and I have a preference.  Your preference is obvious, my preference isn't necessarily Microsoft though I chose their side on this one.  Coming onto a forum with "haaha looks like M$ screwed up again," like a silly little Mac fanboi however, is asking for rebuttal, or at least a little name-calling.  ..and I'm all out of chewing gum, or something.

[tone007]

Here is something you do not understand:

A very small amount of people know how computers work, beyond "press buttan, reccev porno".

A very small amount of people actually want to.

I understand that perfectly, and rest assured, even those people will have the problem fixed.

The reason that you have to pay for new OSX operating system releases, is that they are new operating system releases.

Only because Steve Jobs needed some spending money.  It's still OSX, they just picked the "pay for play" route.  Want to use OSX for 10 years? You're going to buy it a few times and spend alot more than you'd pay for XP.

I love the service pack model. "lets release lots of tiny minor insignifcant fixes constantly, but anything important can wait for a couple of year while we build it into a 2GB monstrosity of a patch that basically replaces the entire OS install and takes forever to download".

Obviously you don't know what a service pack is.  It's a rollup of those "tiny minor fixes," bundled into one for convenience, just like Apple does.  Sure, they usually add something different to make it worth doing the rollup and rollout, but most of it is old work repackaged to save time.