Amiga 500 Rev 5. and ECS chip set...??

[tone007]

A super Denise make 1 instruction go faster and gives you some new screen modes. Nothing really useful.

Sure, new screen modes aren't useful at all.

Either way, Super Denise is required if you want ECS.

[tone007]

Nope. ECS Agnus alone (2 MB chip) runs fine w/o problems.
For flexible scan rate modes and/or SuperHires you'd need Hires Denise, of course.

ECS stands for Enhanced Chipset or something yes?  And "ECS" machines from Commodore came with a Super Denise, correct? Now, if you don't want compatibility with the couple of ECS games that use the new graphics chip out there, sure, stick your 2MB Agnus in. That's not ECS, though.  You need a Super Denise or you've got a hybrid.

[tone007]

"ECS" compatibility in games is usually all about having 2 MB chip RAM. Show me a game requiring non-PAL/-NTSC screen modes and/or SuperHires and you've got a point.

My point was "real" ECS machines have a Super Denise.  

If you say your A500 with old Denise and 2mb Agnus is an ECS machine, you're wrong, if only for the simple fact it won't do what are commonly known as ECS screenmodes.  AmigaOS will tell you "requires ECS" in the Screenmode prefs, and if you don't have that Super Denise you don't have ECS as it was intended.

I'd be pretty pissed off if someone sold me an "ECS A500" that didn't have the full ECS chipset.