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Re: Amiga Coldfire project dead?
« on: November 17, 2010, 06:17:59 PM »
Quote from: bloodline;592515
Hardly a rewrite! A compiler switch and a bit work on the CPU specific parts of AROS... Easy ;)


Why does nobody just do this?

To hell with the copyright!

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Re: Amiga Coldfire project dead?
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2010, 11:29:06 PM »
Quote from: Karlos;592535
Erm, they have. AROS runs on more than just x86.


Sorry, you misunderstood me.

I was talking about converting AmigaOS to x86

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Re: Amiga Coldfire project dead?
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2010, 11:50:58 PM »
Quote from: bloodline;592622
Waste of time, just use AROS :)


How very droll.

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Re: Amiga Coldfire project dead?
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2010, 11:57:09 PM »

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Re: Amiga Coldfire project dead?
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2010, 12:19:58 AM »
Quote from: iggy;592636
good god! Are we back to octamed again? Nicholas claims it run on a pegasos under amiga os 4.1.
So, at least for your use, a ppc based system makes sense.


58 goto 52

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Re: Amiga Coldfire project dead?
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2010, 12:29:37 AM »
Quote from: Amiga_Nut;592645
As far as Atari TOS goes you only deal with pure 68000 and nothing ese. Even 68010s will crash GEM/TOS btw.


Carl Sassenrath discusses this in one of the Amiwest videos IIRC.

Unbelievable!

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Re: Amiga Coldfire project dead?
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2010, 11:07:23 AM »
Quote from: Amiga_Nut;592719
PPC laptops don't exist


Are you mad?

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Re: Amiga Coldfire project dead?
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2010, 12:44:17 PM »
Quote from: bloodline;592753
The rest of the falcon hardware was an order of magnitude superior to AGA...


I hope you're wearing your flame-proof jacket!

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Re: Amiga Coldfire project dead?
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2010, 04:27:36 PM »
Quote from: Iggy;592828
Glad to hear that the G5 turned out to be a worthwhile purchase. It is amazing what a reasonably powerful computer can do, isn't it?


What is amazing is that a 500Mhz PC from 6 years ago can run youtube fine, but a G4 mac mini chokes to death on youtube.

Fanbois of the world unite.

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Re: Amiga Coldfire project dead?
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2010, 06:15:46 PM »
Quote from: Piru;592848
With Akiko the otherwise underpowered CD32 was able to have games that would have been otherwise impossible.


[citation needed]

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Re: Amiga Coldfire project dead?
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2010, 10:48:54 PM »
Quote from: Amiga_Nut;592897
SEGA/Nintendo must have pissed themselves all the way to the bank over the ECS 'improvements'.



I liked the billboard outside Sega HQ which said "Amiga CD32 - To be this good will take Sega Ages"

Excellent play on words there!  Im sure there's gotta be a pic of it somewhere!

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Re: Amiga Coldfire project dead?
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2010, 11:39:39 PM »
Quote from: Amiga_Nut;592921
The real issue is that CD32 probably couldn't even manage Gauntlet IV from a Megadrive in even 128 colours despite being 13 years newer design! And then there is the issue of proper parallax scrollng on Sega and the still crap 16+16 colours on AGA for dual playfield. Also if you factor in the actual Mega-CD dedicated sprite scaling and rotating hardware a la Sega System 16 style techniques then forget it, a crippled 14mhz 020 (crippled as no way to add fast ram except £200 SX32 etc) can not compete. And AGA was a kludge of too little too late.

Check out Thunderhawk on Mega-CD vs Amiga AGA heli/flight sims and let me know which ones have textured ground? Only thing CD32 did better was FMV and total colours on screeen/palette. Everything else was inferior to Sega....the bits that are important for a console ;)


13 years?

Also, i doubt you could call AGA a kludge lol.

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Re: Amiga Coldfire project dead?
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2010, 11:53:02 PM »
Quote from: Amiga_Nut;592930
AGA is a Kludge, same rubbish parallax with 8 extra colours wooo, same sound and a slow slow 256 colour mode. It was too little too late and only an idiot would argue otherwise. Even the 1987 Acorn Archimedes had faster 256 colour mode (and faster CPU than A4000/030 with 8 channel stereo sound actually). You read too much ass licking reviews in Amiga Format perhaps about how amazing AGA is ;)

And yes the Sega Megadrive was out in 89/90 in Japan and CD32 1993.

And actually the CD32 is an even bigger kludge than A4000/1200, it should have had 1mb chip 1mb fast ram if they couldn't be bothered to put a SIMM socket on it for 50 pence as it cripples the CPU to 50% max speed!


And indeed only an idiot would calculate that 1993-1990=13  ;)

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Re: Amiga Coldfire project dead?
« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2010, 11:55:00 PM »
Quote from: Amiga_Nut;592930
AGA is a Kludge, same rubbish parallax with 8 extra colours wooo, same sound and a slow slow 256 colour mode. It was too little too late and only an idiot would argue otherwise. Even the 1987 Acorn Archimedes had faster 256 colour mode (and faster CPU than A4000/030 with 8 channel stereo sound actually). You read too much ass licking reviews in Amiga Format perhaps about how amazing AGA is ;)

And yes the Sega Megadrive was out in 89/90 in Japan and CD32 1993.

And actually the CD32 is an even bigger kludge than A4000/1200, it should have had 1mb chip 1mb fast ram if they couldn't be bothered to put a SIMM socket on it for 50 pence as it cripples the CPU to 50% max speed!


On a more serious note, I always thought that AGA was a different architecture than OCS/ECS, and thus, I cant see how it could be called a Kludge.

Perhaps ECS was a kludge...

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Re: Amiga Coldfire project dead?
« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2010, 01:15:39 AM »
Quote from: Amiga_Nut;592951
like I said either stick a damned £1 SIMM socket on the board or make it 1mb chip/1mb fast.


Is it really that simple or would extra chips be needed to interface the RAM to the CD32?

If so, why the hell didn't they do it?  Even the N64 had upgradable memory!

I do like the CD32 though...  What a bloody shame they couldn't get them into America near the end over some stupid royalties issue.  It really could have given Commodore a last chance at stardom  :(