Hyperion bankrupt?

[Nlandas]

i have just read that on amiga-news:

http://www.faillissementsdossier.be/de/insolvenz/1039367/hyperion-entertainment-cvba.aspx

in english:
http://www.faillissementsdossier.be/en/bankruptcy/1039367/hyperion-entertainment-cvba.aspx

Hyperion is bankrupt?

I have been praying that someone who remains with rights to the OS I.P. would come to their senses and Open Source AmigaOS. If we can build a community of developers behind the code based on the original source perhaps someday we can get it ported to x86. Yes, I know AROS has been working steadily on an x86 Amiga-compatible OS but this would be based on the actual source code and the work already done on 4.

I know we all have different ideas of what Amiga is/was but I really miss a lot of what AmigaOS had to offer and my monthly A1200 fix will only last so long. For the longest time I hoped for an x86 port with PCI AGA card but with how fast brute force processors have gotten emulation might be able to offer an abstraction layer to play older games within a new x86 OS.

I'd rather run the OS native and emulate the chipsets than emulate the whole OS and hardware. I'm probably a very, very small minority though and many will just say - run AROS.

[Nlandas]

impossible as it has been told 1000 times, so why are you still praying?

Do tell, it sounds like the IP to 3.1 is now held by Cloanto so why can't they choose  to Open Source it?

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what is that "work already done on os4" that are you missing with aros? actually aros misses some optimiztation on 68k still it runs better under uae than os4.

OS3.9/4 added different things to the 3.1 source. I'm not going to enumerate all of the changes here.

http://www.amigaos.net/content/1/features

arguing like that you sound definitely like you were effectively one of those "name followers".

I'm not certain what you mean by "name follower". I've played with AROS multiple times but not found it stable when I was testing it. I don't have anything against AROS but we are fragmenting into AROS, MorphOS, legacy 3.1, and 3.9/4.0.

I still maintain it would be nice to have an official Open Source AmigaOS/Workbench(don't care the name) project from the current I.P. holder. Perhaps, AROS could even benefit from access to the original source code itself.

BTW - Why the attack?

-Nyle

[Nlandas]

well, i must give you that, you actually have a reason not to switch to aros on amiga hardware currently as it is still less responsible than the genuine os. and it lacks some soft and hardware support. therefore i run hd-rec still under 3.9. aros is though potentially a good and compatible os replacement/improvement and one that reacts to users most, closest to crowd funding initiative, so if the user base actually builds up some tension, it may have some effect it wouldnt have elsewhere.

I've tried AROS multiple times over the years and even had a few friends who like alternative OSs play with it. It's a neat project but it might too benefit from access to the source code. Heck, perhaps the two projects could be melded into one project. I don't know how much of the AROS project being based on 3.1 would be possible to port into a new Open Source OS with the original 3.1 code as reference.

It certainly doesn't sound like it would hurt.

[Nlandas]

Open sourcing it might be nice, but I'd just like to see it being maintained and updated by professionals.

Open or not, unless you have a strong project leader, you're going to get people going off in left field doing crazy additional stuff that drags down the project and breaks compatibility.

Very, very true. I agree. However, if it's held by a small company with limited profit potential we end up with an orphaned product like 4.0. If it's Open Source the possibility always exists that an active project can start again even if one fails.

With cash on the line, I think there is honestly more incentive to stay on track and produce something of value.

If someone can make a little money there, good for them, I'm willing to pay for quality work.

Also, I may be inferring too much, but it sounded like Cloanto only had access what was released by Commodore. To me, that seems like binaries, documentation and probably the NDK.

I never heard anything about Cloanto and source code.

That might be possible though my impression was that Cloanto had the original I.P. from CBM just not the Trademarks. I would think that meant if they have the I.P. rights, they have the rights to the 3.1 OS and source code. They sounded like they didn't have 3.9 or 4.0 rights as those deals were separate. I too will pay for AmigaOS/Workbench but only IF, I can run it.

If an Open Source project existed that was active and working towards porting Workbench to multiple platforms and perhaps partnering with other projects or joining with them. I'd "buy" their project as well. I still think it would be nice to have someone like Cloanto as the final say on the Open Source project. In that sense an "official" original I.P. Source Code based project.

-Nyle

P.S. Thought it simply has to say AmigaOS though, I mean, I'm totally brand specific. Won't use anything else, well except for Windows, Linux(Unbuntu, SLES, etc.), Android, etc. I mean if it doesn't say Commodore and Amiga on it - well I just won't try it out. LOL!