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The Surface tablet continues to struggle and the idea to take down the iPad failed so with Surface Pro 3 the plan has changed. The new Tablet now has a higher price ($799 vs $499) and is aimed at corporate customers. It also includes a crappy i3 processor instead of the i5 that the Surface Pro 2 had. You can get a i5 or i7 but the prices goes way up.

Happy computing!


http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9248464/Microsoft_doubles_down_on_2_in_1_enterprise_first_Surface_strategy?taxonomyId=241&pageNumber=2

   I respect everyone's right to have an opinion but I find it humorous that the iPad is even mentioned in conjunction with the Surface 3.

   The Surface 3 Pro runs a full desktop OS and comparing the Core i3 and the A7 with iOS, which isn't much more than a launcher, is like comparing a Vic 20(6502) and a 386. The Core i3 is a very adequate processor for anyone doing basic desktop computing. The fact that you can now get an i7 in a hybrid tablet/laptop running a full desktop OS is pretty neat.

    Perhaps, we should be more astonished that Apple can continue to sell a Wifi 10 inch tablet with an A7 processor and 64GB of storage for $699.

   Forgetting that Microsoft is almost as bad as Apple, as monopolies go, doesn't that make a desktop level 12" tablet with i3, 64GB and full desktop OS for $799 look pretty good? It does to me, even if I'd prefer that it was coming from neither Apple or Microsoft.
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I second that motion.

Nothing about the Surface is Amiga related. If this forum wants to be a alternative OS site how about changing the domain to altos.org.

As for donating, why should I! Many Amiga businesses get free/cheap publicity flogging their products on here and it remains the fault of the Amiga.org not to pursue these businesses for higher contributions to keep this site active.


So don't read the thread. It's in the correct category.
Operating System Specific Discussions ยป Other Operating Systems

I've seen Mac OS discussed on here for years and if I'm not interested in the topic, I just don't read the post.
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Hey, that's super, and far be it from me to dole out advice in regards to what people do in their own beds.  :)

A $99 Android tablet is a better solution for the "cookie recipe" types, and that's just fine.  Sure beats paying $700 for an iPad to sit on the crapper playing Candy Crush like a good majority of iPad users do.

HP ePrint works terrible for me on my iPads, I know that much - and corporations still prefer wired over wireless anyways.  I've used the Lantronix solutions with far better success.  AirPlay (AirPrint) is not big in the enterprise by any stretch.


Duce, You hit on a another huge point for me and why I don't use Apple product, besides being a nearly vertically integrated monopoly, they don't follow standards very well. They also make their own "standards" that don't work with anyone else's products and are not enterprise friendly. (So much for a "standard.") AirPlay uses Bonjour which doesn't handle being routed, unless you spend for custom networking hardware, etc. It's a nightmare for Enterprise support and is really obviously designed for a home user single subnet network.

If someone likes Apple's closed ecosystem great but as you say, comparing a media consumption tablet like an iPad or Android Tablet to the Surface 3, isn't a good comparison.

As you allude to, did the iPad print to standard existing printers or did people need to go buy a special iPad compatible printer? That's not a standard, that's the tail wagging the dog. It only happened because Apple sold enough units that big companies said, well we better add Apple's custom protocol to our printers. With the trend in Apple iPhone and iPad market share, we might just see a time when large vendors don't think it's worth developing custom Apple only products.

So you end up with Enterprises needing solutions like NetIQ's Mobile iPrint servers solution, so that they can support their existing enterprise printer infrastructure, instead of Apple just supporting the standards based IPP(Internet Printing Protocol) system like virtually everyone else. The same can be said for Android printing, just so you don't think I'm only calling out Apple for not having Enterprise support in it's media consumption tablets.

Both vendors could have come up with a standard based "IPP lite" to build into their media consumption OS, and created a new standard for the entire industry to follow. Then printers could have supported all the new media consumption OS devices, even phones for printing right out of the box without vendor lock in. This is good for us consumers and hopefully a few others open their eyes to Apple being far worse for the overall ecosystem than other big vendors.
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whoever gets hurt that desktop isnt the everybodys darling, is sick. i have enough of desktop, or rather of those uncanny tower bricks under the table (with loose hard drives sticking out of them), because desktop is long dead, with 386, performa and amiga4000, sorry to say. now, who does really care of form factor of computers as soon as it is compact enough and does its job? i loved the a 600 and i like  surface. may we put this thread to death? its an amiga forum after all!


Laptops - Desktop is dead
Netbooks - Desktop is dead
Tablets - Desktop is dead

The mantra continues. The desktop serves as a place for high end power computing with expansion that isn't possible in any other form factor. The traditional desktop has morphed from a huge tower, to a mini-tower, to a desktop case, to something small enough to mount on the back of the monitor.

Don't get me wrong, portable devices have gained in power and for many people they are certainly good enough for everything that they do with a "computing" device. However, I think you'll find that "desktops" still have a very meaningful place in the computing world for some time to come. There are many job functions that don't require portability and many times when I get up off the couch to use my desktop so that I can more efficiently get the job done. Especially, when it comes to any kind of content creation.

Amazing how many people still connect a mouse and keyboard to their laptops when they really want to get something done.
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