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Offline Nlandas

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Re: Amiga and retail chains
« on: July 06, 2008, 01:18:04 PM »
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It seems a common story for people in North America the Amiga was not carried in large retail chains when they (or their parents) were looking for their first PC.

To put this in comparison the Sega Master System (and its games) was more widely carried in retail chains then the Amiga (and its software) in North America.

I read this A history of the Amiga, part 5: postlaunch blues and was shocked with this bit:
"The Commodore 64 had been sold at big retail chains like Sears and K-Mart, but marketing executives felt that the Amiga was better positioned as a serious business computer. Astoundingly, Commodore actually turned down Sears' offer to sell Amigas".

That seems just retarded.


Yes, I do believe that Irving Gould was retarded from all the alcohol, jet-setting and who knows what else. What else could explain hiring a consultant to not only analyze your company but then later run it. Now that's retarded.

The other thing Commodore did under Jack Tramiel was to allienate large computer resellers by selling their products for less in retail chains. It's fine to sell in KMart and Sears but when you do - you better offer the big computer retailers some form of rebate or something to make it fair.

From what they say in the book, The Edge, That is not how Jack thought. He had no concept of long term relationships. Just what have you done for me lately. Which isn't only evident in Commodore's early dealing with other companies but with how many Excellent Employees, left to work elsewhere.

Can you imagine if Commodore had simply left open it's development facilities, retained all of it's best Engineers and fostered good relationships with dealers and retailers? I can't because it would be a completely different world.
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Re: Amiga and retail chains
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2008, 01:25:43 PM »
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Well, I guess all these stories disprove the original posters first point, then!  The Amiga was carried in major retail chains in North America.

It was just poorly advertised & promoted.


    The A500/A2000 were not officially carried in retail chains in the United States. The Canadian counterpart of Commodore did allow KMart Canada to carry them. Just about every other Commodore Office in the World was allowed to do a better job of marketing and positioning Commodore products than the US division.

I think management was too close to the US offices to keep their hands from messing it all up.
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Re: Amiga and retail chains
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2008, 01:37:14 PM »
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The Amiga didn't fit into this universe. Sad really when they had the world by the b*lls. I mean they had their own chip fab plants, they made the 6502 for everyone else.

Pretty crazy..


Even more crazy was that they had their own LCD plant, an LCD portable machine and a big enough order to kickstart a new market for themselves.

The boss of Radio Shack convinced Marshall Smith that there was no market for such a system, so he threw all that away.


Yeah, who needs hindsight to tell them - never listen to a competitor when it comes to what to release. Especially, when that competitor is the largest vendor in the market of the item you plan to compete with.

Now that is bone-headed. I mean really, who needs to look back and say - geez, I guess I should have release a portable computer based on completely virtically integrated technology, even the LCD, to compete with other vendors in that marketspace?

On top of that, this single decision and the elimination of C='s LCD abilities was likely one of the reasons that no portable Amiga was released.
I think, Therefore - Amiga....