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Re: What's behind Microsoft's fall from dominance?
« on: September 16, 2013, 02:16:38 PM »
No, please, don't force me to read 9 pages of discussions just to understand how the topic turned from "what's behind Microsoft's fall from dominance" and "the right to play back a DVD should be included when buy the DVD and playback should not be restrictred by software patents". It would be overkill ;-)

Anyway, back to original topic, I don't think there's a fall from dominance by Microsoft. It just happens that a NEW market, different than PC ones, has born in the meanwhile, and Microsoft didn't pay enough attention to its future relevance. Result is that Microsoft is still absolutely dominant in the PC *and* server market, although in the new, different MOBILE market its competition to Google and Apple has just begun. I wouldn't underestimate Microsoft here, though: I already know some people switching from iOS to Android to Windows Phone, and all of them agree the last one is the stablest among the three. This trend may diffuse if vendors of Android phones won't stop kidding with customers and decide to upgrade their products in a better way. Microsoft also bought Nokia, which in the past was the best seller competitor in the cellphone market, so they have all the know-how they need to succeed again. In a nutshell: Microsoft's fortunes might have been built on questionable marketing behaviors in the past, but they had many success stories and made many mistakes to learn from. I wouldn't bet Google and Apple share the same valuable experiences, even if they had a glorious histery behind them.

All in all, we're still at the beginning of a new era, and it's good to see all that competition that was just driven out from the computer market long ago. It will bring customers better products after all.
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Re: What's behind Microsoft's fall from dominance?
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2013, 09:54:36 AM »
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I don't know what industry you are in...

The italian subsidiary of IBM.

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...but MS is *far* from being dominant in the server space it's not even close.

UNIX-oids are by far the most used overall except for niche markets that are by definition tied to Windows like .NET etc.

Among the 10000+ servers I can have access to, here: 850 use Linux (mainly SUSE, Red Hat and a few others), about 2600 use another UNIX dialect (counting Solaris, MVS, AS/400 and others), about 650 are physical VMware hosts (ESX/ESXi, any version), and all the rest are Windows machines. Which means 70% of servers hosted here are Windows (and not unixes) machines. You may argue that all over the world the situation may be different, but I can assure you it's a good sample of the whole server universe. Little industries that can't afford hosting in the farms of a great IT company and prefer keeping their machines in-house generally choose Microsoft too, because it offer robust integrated solutions for the web (IIS), for email (Exchange), and there's a pletora of 3rd party products that can work aside or together with them, with the relative ease of use of Windows. The myth of the server world using 99% Linux has never been true and it's extremely far from the actual situation.
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Re: What's behind Microsoft's fall from dominance?
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2013, 11:44:12 AM »
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Who said Linux?

In the world of large RDBMS and cluster farms UNIX (And I include Linux and the BSD's in that too) is and always has been king. MS made inroads certainly but it is not even close to being dominant as you claim.

AS/400 is no UNIX either. You work for IBM?!?

As I've said "including Solaris, AS/400 etc", meaning anything different from Windows. I've just excluded from the list ESX/i servers, since I don't think hypervisors should count in the picture (they just provide a virtualization environment for virtual servers which actually do a job). Is it better explained, now?

(moreover: how do you count clusters? is a cluster a single installation of UNIX/Window or every node is a different installation in your count?)
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