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Offline paolone

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Re: real amiga vs winuae
« on: June 03, 2009, 03:43:46 PM »
Quote from: danybebe;508737
Hi all.
I want to assemble a working amiga that is actually usable, and is not too
difficult to use (I want my kids to be able to load games too), but  I've
never actually owned or used an amiga in the past until now

Your kids won't ever understand why they should play on a computer, connected to a TV, games that look and act like the ones they can easily play on their mobile phone. A Radeon HD4770 powered Phenom II PC is a cheap but powerful gaming platform, an Amiga - whatever it is - is "vintage gaming crap" for young people. So, buy the gaming platform and run WinUAE onto if from time to time: your kids will be happier.
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Re: real amiga vs winuae
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2009, 03:57:56 PM »
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Jose made an unrelated post without seeing your posts that just happened to blow you arguments out of the water: he uses his Amiga for his music because it boots faster than windows.  And Linux unless (maybe) you can be arsed creating a custom Linux.  Clearly you can be arsed.  The rest of the world have got better things to do then that.  Jose gave a real-world example of how his Amiga is superior to the PC- YOUR PC included.

Jose has made a post that just brought here another questionable attitude with technology we can agree with or not. Jose has all the rights to decide that the best feature for a music recording equipment is a fast boot time, but if I had to record music I have in my head, I would be happier to wait 2 more seconds to do that on modern applications for MacOS X and, why not, Windows, which maybe will provide more processing options, memory and CPU power to do all.

As I have already said, I consider all this "my computer boots before yours" total crap, something that a serious user should never even think for an architecture comparison. First of all, 'cos boot time depends on too many factors, and all over because in the real world (the one where normal people with normal attitudes live) it doesn't matter how many seconds you need to boot a system, but instead the time (hours, days, maybe months and years) that the same system can stay turned on, without a shutdown or a reboot (we call it "uptime"). Are our Amigas enough stable to outperform Windows, Linux or MacOS X uptimes? No, they aren't. So, just multiply Amiga short boottime for the times you need to reboot it, and you'll notice that PC and Macs make you loose less time, even if they need 2x or 3x or even 10x the time to boot an Amiga.
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Re: real amiga vs winuae
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2009, 12:11:06 AM »
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@paolone

You're wrong. It all depends on the application, what will the machine be doing. There are some rarer cases where boot time is critical, I just gave you one.

Nope. You just gave us an example of what you feel critical. There is a little difference.

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Another one is the settobox market, in an AV system you normally want to sit on the living room turn on the equipment and start watching TV, not wait 30 seconds or more (not that there is any Amiga software doing DVB reception which is a shame..).
By the way, there is an attitute towards technology, oposite to the one you describe, that is not very smart either, which is to buy the latest super duper hardware to do things that don't need it. It's like buying a Ferrari to go buy bread at the supermarket.

That's why I prefer a separate TV tuner from appliances I use to play movies and media files/supports: TV must turn on instantly, for the other things I can wait.

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The low memory footprint and multitasking speed and efficiency of the AmigaOS architecture could find market niches, there's just not anyone marketing any product with it.

That's what I actually hope for Icaros Desktop...
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