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Re: OS 4 on Mac PPCs
« on: December 15, 2007, 08:23:39 AM »
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TheMagicM wrote:
it would be neat but just because it has a PPC chip doesnt mean it will work "out of the box" or with "just a patch".


True, apart from the fact someone got it working on a MacMini... so I'm guessing it must somehow be possible? Honestly, OS4 will be working on UAE first at this rate.. I'm beginning to think that there are Amiga heads who'd rather be watching the Amiga equivalent Court TV mixed with Days of Our Lives than see something useful happen! 'Where there's a will, there's a way' is a good saying here I reckon..
 

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Re: OS 4 on Mac PPCs
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2007, 08:35:28 PM »
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jorkany wrote:
As far as why no OS4 on Mac PPC, Hyperion and the Friedens have consistently shot down that idea for years for a number of reasons, such as:

Hyperion isn't in the "have a few PPC systems lying around market".


As opposed to no PPC systems about?

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jorkany wrote:We can't figure out the Mac mobos without documentation that Linux groups have had for years, and asking the Linux community for help is out of the question because open source is the devil.


The code to make it work could be open source and there would be no issue, Executive changed the whole multitasking system of the Amiga, yet that was freeware, I don't think it was open source, but it could have been without compromising anything relating to the copyrighted OS. I think it's entirely possible the Linux community would be quite supportive of this effort IMHO, and having the code to make OS4 work on Mac would be possibly better as open source as that could mean more development & more reformed Macs.

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jorkany wrote:We don't have a license for a Mac port. (this excuse doesn't hold much water anymore for obvious reasons)


Moot point, it's not a port as such. It's more about co-opting hardware. As for making the classic OS1.3 etc work on earlier Macs, I think it was a little bit more tied to the hardware than OS4.

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jorkany wrote:Since Apple has gone Intel there are no Mac PPC systems available anymore.


True, Mac has gone Intel, and this is actually one of the stronger reasons for OS4 on Mac hardware to actually happen, there's a surplus of screaming hot (yet cheap) PPC hardware that will be redundant happening right now as people upgrade. Any Mac made in the last two years will be better architecture than anything made specifically for Amiga at any price point. Even then Amiga benefits from a lot more orders of OS4, which might put a bit of money into the coffers to come up something on the hardware side that is worthwhile, like Amiga OS4 on a Cell based machine.

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jorkany wrote:OS4 is poised to take over the embedded market where there is no competition. (not really related but throwing it in anyway for kind of a retro 2005 perspective, lol)


Well, the AOS for embedded/mobile devices idea I guess in hindsight didn't turn out to be a bad one, it's a shame that everyone thought to deride it pretty much.

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jorkany wrote:My favorite though comes from the OS4 community itself: releasing OS4 on hardware which is no longer in production would make OS4 look ridiculous.


Yes, this is my favourite too, like having an OS with no hardware isn't ridiculous enough!? Or suggesting that buying old new stock or second hand Mac hardware is somehow more demeaning that scouring eBay for overpriced second hand Phase V products?? (for the record, I own a 603e 240mhz & BVision card)

Gimme a break already! lol Sounds too much like excuses to me.