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Re: found site with Amiga roms
« on: January 28, 2003, 01:01:34 PM »
They are not ROMs.  They are images of game disks.
Consoles (like the Sega Genesis or the Nintendo SNES) stored their games on ROM cartridges.  So, when a console game is dumped it is often referred to as a "ROM".

Computers on the other hand, (such as the PC, the Apple Mac, or the Amiga) store their software on disk, or on CD-ROM, or more recently DVD.  

Certain computers (such as the C64, Vic-20,  or the Atari 800) did have a cartridge port which could accept games on ROM cartridge but this made the games very expensive to produce and so most games were on floppy disk or on cassette tape.

If you download some software like this it is not a ROM.  The only "ROM"s ever available for Amiga is the kickstart ROM.  There is a (broken) link to kick1.3 on that page but you seemed to be referring to the disk images...

If you download a game for your PC do you call it a "ROM"?

EmuLamers coming on Amiga IRC channels begging for "Roms for playing on Amiga emulator" really p**s me off, sorry.
 

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Re: found site with Amiga roms
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2003, 01:05:34 PM »
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Guyver wrote:
Calen, i'm well aware of the problem.
Just wasn't thinking about it.

But in my own oppinion i don't a problem downloading from a site that host games, that really can't find anywere anymore, do you?????

If the sites host newer games like Heretic 2 og Quake 1/2....and that sort of games, then i have a problem with, becuase then you are hurting the profit of companies that are still making games for the Amiga today. And we dont wanna loose them.

I know i wont.....because, if we loose the games, then i belive that the number of active users would drop.....not that people only use the amiga for gaming, but a lot of people do :-)  :-)


I see.  and can you tell me the exact timeframe after which a programmer has finished a project that it is ok to begin stealing his work?  1 year? 2 years?

Actually 90% of sales of a new game are in the first three months, so I guess we should start pirating games after it's been out for 3 months, after all the developers have already recieved most of the money they were going to get, so it's not like they'd be losing anything.  Makes sense?
 

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Re: found site with Amiga roms
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2003, 02:46:29 PM »
I really can't be bothered to go through this whole argument again, regardless of how many names (abandonware...) people make up to try to justify their stealing other people's property.

If you want to download LEGAL games for playing on UAE (or your real Amiga if you're not just an emu freak) then go to BTTR (www.back2roots.org).  All the games on there are legally available for download because the current copyright holder has given explicit permission.

If there's a game you would like to download (for example, the Team17 games have been mentioned) but you can't find it,  then you should email Martyn Brown at Team 17 and ask him if he'd be willing to release the game as freeware.  If he says no then accept it.

For most games, it shouldn't be too hard to find the current copyright holder.  Many of the old Amiga developers are still in business or have been bought out (for example, the rights to Ocean's and DID's games are now owned by Infogrames)

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If people download "Moonstone", I honestly don't see what the big deal is. Where could they have bought it from?


Fine by me if they want to download Moonstone - the copyright holders have given their permission for the game to be made freely available.
 

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Re: found site with Amiga roms
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2003, 02:54:36 PM »
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Like games from Team17, Core desing, Ocean, Bitmap Brothers......i'm sure you know the rest ;-)  ;-)  ;-)


So email the companies you mentioned (Ocean is no longer around but the rights to their back-catalogue is owned by Infogrames) and ask them!

So busy downloading "ROM"s that you don't have time to write an email?