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Offline wawrzon

Re: Is Amiga NG underpowered?
« on: May 13, 2015, 04:42:00 PM »
Quote from: Thomas Richter;789217
Well, not quite so: There's something very important that stops it from a Hobbyist platform, and you said it: The price!

The real problem is here the way how some Amiga vendors try to address the market: They are basically following a (failed) 1980's strategy of a locked-down special hardware and a closed-source vendor-specific Os on top.

While this strategy worked for some time (shorter for CBM, longer for MS) it becomes more and more obsolete. MS has the market penetration to reach their goals and force vendors into their model, but Amiga has not, so it really makes no sense to follow this idea anymore.

All the "cheapo" hardware products hence operate in an open-source type of market to attract hobbyists, and it seems that this strategy is somewhat more successful.


strange to read it from you. are you starting to sympathise with aros?
 

Offline wawrzon

Re: Is Amiga NG underpowered?
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2015, 06:42:39 PM »
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I'm neither for nor against it, I just cannot contribute as a developer without putting it into danger.

you should have realized by now, that i understand your concerns and am not trying to force you towards aros. i just observed that you have rather a critical view on open source, and was a bit amazed that you seemed to shift your sympathies a bit in your above post.

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I'm not a particular fan of Windows, but I understand why most people use it as "least troublesome Os". I'm not a particular fan of the open source development model, even though I use such products a lot.

me too. and also here i understand your concerns. open source software is in most cases inferior and shaped after its closed source counterpart. closed model is more efficient to achieve particular goals if there is good administration behind it. its similar to how it behaves in politics or other areas.

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All I'm saying is that I don't understand the Os 4 closed source model or the Morphos model if that suits you better - maybe it is reasonable for some people, but I personally cannot make much sense of it, so I don't care.

i cant say i dont understand it. in the meantime i tend to think i can understand these motivations. still, i generally dont see much sense in closed source software development in such a limited community, especially taking the point of view of users, also as potential contributors, into account.

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No money, no service, quite simple. I'm not *intrinsically* motivated for any NG system to offer anything for free.

even if i cant contribute what you theoretically could, i feel different about it. i would not offer my service to a company for free, but i have no problem to offer help to a free solution that benefits everybody.
 

Offline wawrzon

Re: Is Amiga NG underpowered?
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2015, 07:09:51 PM »
Quote from: Thomas Richter;789224
As said, I do contribute to some projects *if I'm intrinsically motivated*. That depends on the project, and it happened in the past. Os 4 or Morphos is not such a project. That's what I'm saying.


right, im aware about your free contributions of course.
 

Offline wawrzon

Re: Is Amiga NG underpowered?
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2015, 10:46:55 PM »
Quote from: TheBilgeRat;789232
Not going to lose any sleep over you putting me on your ignore list.

But, if you are honestly interested in why that was said, just peruse your "sad" thread and any other thread where you rant on about the poor plebs unable to afford an X1000, or AOS4, or whatever.

Anyways, I'll return the favor, as you've shown no ability to contribute usefully to any of the conversations, either with knowledge about the subject at hand or with witty banter.


i doubt ignore lists have any effect on whomever isnt strong enough to read a post and ignore it out of his own free will.