in case you are interested to test new fpga accelerators for a600/a500

[wawrzon]

http://www.apollo-core.com/knowledge.php?b=1¬e=2742&z=UH8ZUJ
apparently there is an inquiry for interest.

as well an another option here (vampire2):

http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php?71144-Vampire-600-V2-Amiga-600-FPGA-accelerator-Pre-order

[wawrzon]

afair the cards are meant to be connected to the cpu or cpu socket.

[wawrzon]

I think the only thing Amiga-related that I ever backed, that I got totally screwed over on, was that coupon & shirt deal.  What was that, about 2003?  2004?  I still want my damned shirt, lol.  :lol:

i dont think this is a pre-payment scheme. at least they were avoiding one before. they are evaluating the interest i guess.

[wawrzon]

Oh, before I forget: There is likely not enough room on the FPGA for a MMU or a FPU, thus integer only, i.e. it is approximately the equivalent of a 68EC060@100Mhz.

are you sure? i thought it was vampire2 limitation, not the gunnars sockit board?

[wawrzon]

yes, even though i thought that bga package igor is using now woulkd be bigger than the previous one. but actually we are reffering here to that sandwitch socit board proposed by gunnar, arent we? and i thought that would be begi enough for what he considers a full core.

[wawrzon]

Seems there is some confusion due to different option being developed in parallel and announced at the same time. Its important that ecerybody checks his facts exactly before ordering.

[wawrzon]

so, thomas, in your opinion is gunnars design sufficient for a full blown core with fpu and with some sort of mmu eventually?

[wawrzon]

i must say im very tempted to find somewhere an a600 again, register at the apollo forum and get a test run board, even theough i swore myself tot to buy any more amiga rubbish () any soon, still im not sure if i can contribute much to testing, let alone the development. on the other hand, he more testers, the more current.

gunnar, when is the deadline one has to made up their mind?

[wawrzon]

errrm, guys, even being op in this thread, silly question, how have you managed to register?
im seriously starting to think about getting another a600;)

[wawrzon]

a500 is too bulky. i have a sentiment for the 600 for its compact form factor and because it was the firsta amiga i owned;). but i would have to get ks3.1 for it first as i understand.
i was a member on natami forum, they could take my details from there or from you.

[wawrzon]

im not questioning nor want to discuss anybody elses preference. its important for me to have most compact and mobile unit if possible, because i move around, and it was the first time like that. thats all

[wawrzon]

That falls under "patching" in my eyes

if adding library for few unsupported instructions is patching the os, then 040/060 require this as well. apparently you cant just "patch" the os that way to make it work with coldfire for example, which speaks for apollo core compatibility.
this is one thing. another is, that the more instruction a cpu doesnt provide without a library support, the less it is compatible for "nodos" software, that not accept being run from the operating system. of course it is usually only old games, that do not require acceleration in first place, its nice though staying compatible even with these as far as possible.

[wawrzon]

What is the truth? Can you tell us when you change your mind again and update your documentation (the only documentation I find is N68050 encoding maps)? The truth can change especially where you control it. The last truth (or lie from your posts) was that you were using OPI.L #.L, which would partially overwrite encodings of some other instructions like CAS, CAS2 and CMP2.

http://www.apollo-core.com/knowledge.php?b=4¬e=2732

Did you finally listen to ThoR after arrogantly running Meynaf and me off for suggesting the same thing? You finally caved to adding all the 68020 addressing modes after Meynaf and I told you having them would provide best compatibility and keep some heavy using programs from crawling due to traps. I would like to support your project but I won't put up with your arrogance and abuse.

even if discussion is heated, if it leads to a positive result and reconsideration in the end, i find it a rather positive sign. i am accustomed to completely different behaviour in this scene.

[wawrzon]

if an amiga has not enough backward compatible cpu to satisfy your needs, it could fall back to, then its not gunnars fault. its likely that if if there will be hardware available, there may appear some alternative cores for it.
so far there always has been a lot of talking about fpga for years but very few people who actually did anything. not sure if there is an alternative for gunnars solution any soon, alas. which is uncomfortable, because there is a bit too much of what depends on one person for my taste but i dont see no option.

[wawrzon]

@gunnar: who knows to whom i would be praying if i did;)

honestly i hope you wont get hit by a bus any soon;)