Hyperion bankrupt?

[wawrzon]

If it's just a case of proving that key paperwork wasn't handed to Ben on time and he is able to pay the creditor then it is not significant.

sorry but it sounds like the most dumb excuse one could come up with. im pretty sure the bankruptcy procedure doesnt just get started with a single bill paid a bit too late, as it seems to be suggested here and mindlessly repeated forever. the problems and the behaviour must have been notorious and therefore even if complete liquidation could be avoided this time it suggests it can happen again any other day soon. it definitely is an indication that the company is in very poor state. that means that any (further) investments will likely be lost. and i am not only speaking of money but also of feelings and contributions.

[wawrzon]

... and/or doesn't handle it properly.

they already didnt handle it properly since they let it happen to be declared bankrupt. not getting papers handed over on time.. mygod.. how much absent minded they must be. and the particular notion to hide this state of affairs from the community of people who depend on them, at least for the time being, since it would come out one day or another, indicates it is some sort of playing for time.

[wawrzon]

personally since i don't have any money invested with them, i'm not bothered one way or another except that if it is true, then that's very sad for those involved and i feel bad for them. i'd also be worried about where AOS development would go from there, but only the future will tell. this is just a hobby for me, so i'm not terribly worked up about it. i'd recommend that to others, by the way.

-- eliyahu

you have no money invested in them? i thought you have a 3000$ computer dedicated to run system they provide? well, if this is nothing, then i envy you.

now, one can get hit by a car, fly over it, land behind on his back, stand up and start the quarrel with its driver. it happened to me twenty years ago. this dosnt mean, it is likely. look, a secretary that doesnt immediately froward the most significant writing, one that contains the company to be or not to be clause, to his boss must be either nuts or ill willed. a boss that hires such an employee must be at least very naive, sorry. it is really telling about the degraded state of affairs.

and especially seeing the issue is serious, one of they first steps towards the community, if they care for them and their loyalty at all, would be to issue official explanation note on the subject, rather than let their followers repeat out of context what they posted or said somewhere in the hidden.

[wawrzon]

A bankruptcy claim is not something you generally go around shouting from the rooftops, exactly because of the type of reactions we see here.

yes, but for exactly this reason they would have to issue a note on this, knowing it will now at least take time to handle it, if at all. it would have been discovered sooner or later.

[wawrzon]

Their first responsibility is *to the business*. If you're subject to what you believe to be a wrongful bankruptcy declaration, the last thing you should be doing is *actually* damaging the company by drawing peoples attention to it unnecessarily, or you may very easily find yourself bankrupt through your own stupidity even if the original claim is closed.

and since their business seems to be bound to their target audience, the most damaging is to appear dishonest to them. which is as it is looking like now.

[wawrzon]

I get that it seems odd, but clearly you don't have experience with this, or you would have known that it is a relatively frequent occurrence.

frequent occurrence? i try to work with people whom i can trust. or at least to calculate to what extent they are to be trusted. okay, oversights happen, but this is such an essential one that renders the whole service of that "3rd party" invaluable.

also, even if some court correspondence arrived too late to take opposing action, what about the cause of this all, which obviously must be a separately genuine issue. is there just another third party involved?

[wawrzon]

Apple doesn't manufacture anything other than smoke and mirrors.  They get their hardware from the same Pacific Rim manufacturers as Dell, HP, etc...

which is why i never buy anything apple save once a lcd display im actually using till today. still, apple customers get some work done with apple devices and are apparently satisfied. it cannot be compared to anything os4 offers, except one has really lost his mind in transfer.

[wawrzon]

@eliyahu
in that case why are you constantly calling people trolls and spreading fud for what you admit yourself?

[wawrzon]

would come to their senses and Open Source AmigaOS

impossible as it has been told 1000 times, so why are you still praying?

Yes, I know AROS has been working steadily on an x86 Amiga-compatible OS but this would be based on the actual source code and the work already done on 4.

what is that "work already done on os4" that are you missing with aros? actually aros misses some optimiztation on 68k still it runs better under uae than os4.

arguing like that you sound definitely like you were effectively one of those "name followers".

[wawrzon]

I totaly agree.

you can run aros on actual hardware. not emulated. not even on ppc. actually i think you can already run aros on fcpga acellerator for a600.

[wawrzon]

I have tried aros, but it is not TRUE AmigaOS.

another name victim. alright.

[wawrzon]

what is most annoying ist that constant talk of something being "true" or not, in the manner hipsters love to argue about.

[wawrzon]

And what is the amiga marked today. ?

depends how you twist he meaning of "amiga". still if you allow amigaone hardware then you must allow aros and morphos as well along the fpga projects, which btw, do not claim the name.

I believe in the users and I dont think this computer will ever die.

im with you on that.

[wawrzon]

Im sure "true" can be changed for "familiar OS based on nostalgica"

Just like me, I stick to AOS 3.x on my A1200 for no other reason its the OS I used in the 90s.
I have no rational reason for not switching to AROS, its just lazyness and nostalgica Id say (on my own part).

well, i must give you that, you actually have a reason not to switch to aros on amiga hardware currently as it is still less responsible than the genuine os. and it lacks some soft and hardware support. therefore i run hd-rec still under 3.9. aros is though potentially a good and compatible os replacement/improvement and one that reacts to users most, closest to crowd funding initiative, so if the user base actually builds up some tension, it may have some effect it wouldnt have elsewhere.

[wawrzon]

I would also pay for an "official" update of 68k OS3.9. It has the largest user base and could be made very usable on fast FPGA accelerators that are around the corner.

pay whom and for what is the question.