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Offline wawrzon

Re: Any plans to increased the AmigaNG software?
« Reply #14 from previous page: October 22, 2014, 04:48:12 PM »
Quote from: Wilse;775439
It's not just you; I agree with all of that.

Nonetheless, and retunring to my original point, I often need to record 3 or 4 inputs simultaneously. Even if I just want to record an acoustic guitar I'll almost always have two microphones on it. There is nothing on the Amiga that can do this.

If HD-Rec/OS4 could be modernised to accommodate multiple, simultaneous inputs (again, as one example), it would be a considerable improvement.


im not sure ahi allows this. im not sure too if it could have or ever been done with any sound card on amiga using any alternative driver system. i suppose if this was doable wanderer would have implemented that.
 

Offline wawrzon

Re: Any plans to increased the AmigaNG software?
« Reply #15 on: October 22, 2014, 10:21:14 PM »
@itix
i see. i think this is satisfactory implemented so far. im mostly concerned about improving  planar gfx in this and every other respect if even possible. but thx for the answer.;)
 

Offline wawrzon

Re: Any plans to increased the AmigaNG software?
« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2014, 02:36:26 PM »
Quote from: cgutjahr;775482
That might be true, but how many of the people still 'using' m68k-amigaos belong to the target audience of a software developer?

Software development on 68k completely died down a decade ago. What was released after that is either a port of something maintained by outspoken PPC supporters (YAM, Wookiechat...) or written in AmiBlitz - which means that due to the limitations of the compiler, there'll always be a 68k built even if the developer doesn't care much about 68k (i.e. HD-Rec). As a platform for desktop users, 68k is in much worse shape than AmigaOS 4 or MorphOS. As in: "Even more dead".

A m68k port of AROS is nice for creating free/libre emulator distributions without depending on AInc. And it's a good gimmick for those people who collect, repair and polish old hardware and then want to have a shiny Workbench environment running on it that almost looks like it belongs to this century.

For everything else, m68k-AROS simply appeared way to late - which seems to be the common theme for AROS in general. If AROS would have been there when Amithlon took shape, the Amiga scene might look very different these days. But it wasn't, and now it's 2014.


christoph..  hello?!? anybody home?

aros68k a decade too late? wow?? as if anything else amiga was so much ahead of it. we are not discussing here any plans to catch up with windows, right? we just discuss what would benefit most of the interested parties involved in projects that all are inevitably doomed to fail.
 

Offline wawrzon

Re: Any plans to increased the AmigaNG software?
« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2014, 05:32:38 PM »
Quote from: cgutjahr;775495
Olaf is the one frequently using terms like "available software", "no. of systems", "size of target group" etc. I'm just saying he should lower his expectations. A lot.

There are two niche jobs for m68k-aros in the retro community, but there won't be anybody really using it for actual desktop computing. I'm not sure Olaf understands this.

i think olaf understands as much as he needs to understand. definitely he understans more than many others, probably more than me. nevertheless if he advocates something, he must be allowed to a little enthusiastic about it. its not like he is charging people money for his work or trying to talk them into something. i think we were always pretty honest about the state and possibilities what concerns aros68k. and olafs distribution is much more than aros, it is an comprehensive bundle of software that in many cases would not be available for free or open sourced without him and co.
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Offline wawrzon

Re: Any plans to increased the AmigaNG software?
« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2014, 08:15:06 PM »
Quote from: cgutjahr;775514
I'm just saying what he said is dumb ;)

huh?



but i guess you know this site yourself quite well:
http://aminet.net/statistics
well, even if among recent uploads ports overweight in the meantime even on 68k, it doesnt mean on ng platforms it is any better.
what concerns aros none of us knows exactly where and which way it goes. when m68k platform has been undertaken it went full throttle ahead, now it is pretty still, doesnt even that say something?
 

Offline wawrzon

Re: Any plans to increased the AmigaNG software?
« Reply #19 on: October 23, 2014, 09:05:27 PM »
i say that even in case of aros the involvement of 68k platform led to additional and pretty significant dynamic in allround development, improvements that all targets profited from.