Call me insane if you like but I think I want an X1000 now :)

[wawrzon]

Be careful to not break it. If you burn the mobo it is worth nothing.

as a collector item it might not matter.

[wawrzon]

Broken A4000s dont sell at 5000 USD.

the a4k price on introduction was $3699.- according to the net, today it is equivalent of ~2724 eur.
in winter ive sold non refurbished but in good working condition a4k for about 400 eur.
now, without taking into account that a4k was more popular by at least few hundred times, it might give an assumed value of x1k in twenty years, given the devices would be still in a working condition by then.
im not sure if this is actually a good investment, except you want actually use your device;)

[wawrzon]

BTW guys anyone interested in X1000 might want to buy this guys:

http://amigaworld.net/modules/classifieds/index.php?pa=viewannonces&lid=3204

He is in Poland and looks like you could save a couple of bucks with a used one?

i think he is trying to do exactly what people are talking about here, to sell used item for a price of a new one. doesnt seem getting far with it.

[wawrzon]

Well, lets see, those two systems run Amiga OS 4.1 which was developed from Amiga OS 3.1.

so what? why is this being hammered on every time? morphos and aros are implementing the same api, the same features and extend on that, thats exactly the same what happens on os4 one way or another. os4 may or may not be based on the genuine sources (we dont know for fact) but crucial elements as exec are foreign (as its been claimed). does that matter? does windows8 have to contain windows 3.1 code to be called windows?

They have the legal right to call them AmigaOne computers.

exactly. as in, i dont call aros "amiga" when i run it on my amigas, its still aros. and im fine with it to be amiga compatible.

You maybe hung up on legacy hardware, but my main use for my A2000 these days is to hold ISA breadboard cards as a convenient source of power and a useful backplane.

thats fine, to each his own. still, what you consider source of power, is actually called amiga. and then you use morphos, which is fine too, so why dont you claim it to be "amiga" i wonder..

[wawrzon]

Anyways, here's to some AOS4.2 performance announcements at AmiWest! :pint:

be sure to have tons of announcements there, as essential as every year before. smp ,pardon some sort of "multicore support", gallium, warp3d, netbooks, cooperation, os4.2, open office, final firefox port,... thats what the whole amiwest is for, in the end.

of all things ever announced on amiwest, only x1k came actually true so far i remember. thanks trevor. now it looks like it is becoming a linux machine.

[wawrzon]

I just thought perhaps that X1000 is way more cheaper than say this ---> http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Powerful-Amiga1200Tower-BPPC-SPECIAL-EDITION-WORLDWIDE-FREE-SHIPPING-/261302306120?pt=US_Vintage_Computers_Mainframes&hash=item3cd6d4c548

ah, another too expensive ppc machine with almost no software to justify any actual use. perfect example to underline what we are talking about.

[wawrzon]

This guy is asking ~$4,000 USD (€3,000 EUR) for his used one sold as second hand.

the machine, so far i have been aware of him posting about it, was barely used. he was so disappointed with it, or at least acted as such, that it is safe to assume, it must be as good as new. what concerns price, i think he is just trying his chances seeing how the community works, namely if there are people who prepay 3000$ systems months in advance, why wouldnt anyone pay 4000$ for immediate delivery. i think he is perfectly entiteled to do so and also i think he acts honestly. if he was for scam, he wouldnt badmouth the product he wants to sell so much in advance.

[wawrzon]

WINE for linux and Mac can be ported into AmigaOS 4.1?

what do you want to do with wine on ppc?

[wawrzon]

last time i checked wine was not an emulator. it will not turn your ppc cpu into a x86 to run windows applications. you would probably, just probably, be able to run some windows_nt ppc software (if there actually is any). besides if you want to run windows software there is much faster and cheaper dedicated hardware for that system. why do you need to bend an expensive and unique os4 system to do these tasks, really?

[wawrzon]

go figure..

[wawrzon]

I do not suppose they are available now?

and its better like that.

[wawrzon]

Why?

because a user does not necesarily needs to mess with buggy developer builds. amigas have a complete operating systems, which even gets improved as we speek. if you want to mess with developer builds i recommend aros 68k nightlies to you. more fun and it is not an abandoned work.