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Offline wawrzon

@nicholas:
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@vox

whats the use of it? can you stop stupid actionism? you start to behave as if amiga were your sole property. have you even asked anybody if your idea be appreciated? bet not.
 

Offline wawrzon

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Wow... Lot of strong emotions stired up!

All I was asking is what advantages does adding commodity hardware to the database give?

The question that needs to be asked is, what do people use the database for. Before for someone starts adding in a lot more "noise" on the site, it is first important to find out what are the most viewed pages, and why did people visit them.


+1

the whole action is nothing but another desperate attempt to crap all over the genuine amiga fans sandbox to spoil their game if they dont convert. and this just by individual actionists of some other system. im sorta tired of being haunted by freaks like that. as usual morphos users show more reason, integrity and respect to amiga legacy.
 

Offline wawrzon

this all has nothing to do with practical reasoning. its just publicity stunt by an os4 vocal supporter. if yox really intended to gather a useful database of technical reference he could open his own site. however se sure wouldnt bother to do that as the only reason is to mix up the os4 systems under genuine amigas and therefore to misguide the unaware visitors, that the hardware in question has anything in common.

there were actions like this before, just to name the famous amiga developers lists where the genuine inventors are named in one breath with sdl porters. its just sad and certainly puts more people off than anything else, but be my guest.
 

Offline wawrzon

Quote from: vox;745449
Huh, if people knew PowerPC transition includes so much hate ...

the only logical step to extend the bboah database, if this is really necessary, would be to categorize it in four or even five sections:
1. genuine amiga and extensions
2. 68k clones
3. morphos hardware
4. aros hardware
5. os4 hardware

as i said, it doesnt make sense to mix up hardware and systems not compatible to each other into one category, with not interchangeable software and parts.

so if you caught fire, blame yourself, because it was you starting the whole mess not anyone else.
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Offline wawrzon

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let them add what they want...

actually yes. nothing particular will come out of this. few people will show off what they consider "amiga" in an "official" database. hardly anyone will notice. things like that happened and went past without an impact. sigh..
 

Offline wawrzon

Quote from: EyeAm;745458
:roflmao:

To everyone--those who think 'sacrilege' about commodity parts, those who see PPC as Amiga or not Amiga, etc.--the question one should ask is: "Does it run AMIGA OS?" In these (hopefully) modern times, the OS should matter more. Things done "the Amiga way".

sacriledge.. sigh. its just a fact that hardware wise an amiga is just what it is.. commodore amiga. it has its custom architecture and custom standards not to encounter anywhere else, and thats the information that needs to be preserved and documented. ppc hardware doesnt fit with any genuine amiga hardware and its parts. it isnt even particularly unique as its usually based on third party reference designs. there is no practical reason to list it along the genuine amigas.
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I think some limit "the Amiga" by restricting it to (maybe fabled by now) custom silicon. What's custom, anymore? Really.

More importantly, what would be 'the Amiga philosophy', when it comes to hardware? Being able to take advantage of what's there, and use it in the simplest way? The most efficient manner?

then amiga would have to be what aros is today. right? yet i dont think any aros developer feels an urge to include his system in amiga hardware reference.
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A site for the Big Book Of Amiga Hardware is a good idea.

It's probably more relevant to think: what hardware is 'Amiga OS specific'? Or can be utilized by Amiga OS. If/when that becomes every piece of OS out there, so much the better--it'll show the diversity, and I would say advantage of Amiga OS, but then an operating system can be made to use whatever hardware there is out there (and that only takes willpower, aside from money, to do that).

but then you must differentiate between incompatible system architectures. you cant run genuine amiga system on any ppc or x86 board, as well as you cant run mos or os4 on genuine amigas except equipped with a ppc expansion (while you can run aros admittedly). you cant exchange software between amiga, mos, os4 and aros without porting is.so it doesnt make sense to pretend these systems are all one thing.
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:biglaugh: I think Amigan 'purists' are insane now. The 'Amiga' fish used to rule the old pond it was in; but along came a PC tsunami and left us all with an open sea. To not build a 'bigger boat'--to want that 'Amiga' fish to continue seeing the pond and hoping to rule it anymore--is foolish. When times change, you change with them, or get changed to the past forever.

but amiga is what it is, what it ever was, you will not change it to the opposite pretending its bigger than it is. information hosted on the web should reflect factual state of affairs not  intentions and wishes of individuals within the wider community.
 

Offline wawrzon

Quote from: number6;745474
Surely we can overcomplicate this further...
Sam440 was not rebranded as AmigaOne and Sam460 is listed as AmigaOne 500 (for systems) from Acube but as SAM460EX BASIC SYSTEM from Amigakit.

Heh.

#6


reminds me of a disney book i had as a child where an squirrel fell in love with a skunk and painted a stripe on its back to pretend being one too. the skunk has not bees as easily fooled as some wannabe "amiga" fans.