We need an iBrowse replacement for 68k!!!

[wawrzon]

strangely under uae muforce doesnt detect any hits (mmu on, jit disabled). probably proves again that testing on real hw is more reliable. must check with my a4k again.

[wawrzon]

ah, you have guardian angel turned on as well, just checked that i have muforce turned on as default also on my a4k.

edit: mm. still not catching anything..

[wawrzon]

sry, im off limits for now, perhaps tomorrow, or the next week.

[wawrzon]

confirming working of the previous version with the above option on real hardware. cant edit the preferences though, the preferences window appears minimized and cannot be resized to access its gui.

[wawrzon]

ive got a feeling too, there must be some simple method to find and fix those problems rather than going round in circles.

[wawrzon]

And this is in no way a criticism of Chris. He's done a great service to the community at much personal expense.

I just think that the process needs to be fixed for the new platform.

neither on my part but i would like to be able to follow some systematic process of debugging to learn and be able to utilize this method elsewhere.

edit: we need someone experiences with debugging on 68k, bernd was such a person as it seems, but he had some mystery commercial debugger.. would be great to be able to debug gcc generated binaries though. not everything can be easily ported to vbcc.

[wawrzon]

I fear netsurf as aros and many other çontemporary projects may be dependant on gcc features a compiler from the nineties does not offer.

[wawrzon]

what about the speed? rendering pages is still magnitudes slower than sdl-netsurf68k or aros-owb-68k. even ifit is basically working it doesnt make a sense to use the browser like that on any amiga.

[wawrzon]

well, just so far it doesnt seem to prove that sdl, the both other browsers are based on, is slow by definition.

[wawrzon]

confirm progdir issue gone, browser works without further modifications, aome wrong colors (endian issue) setting 16bit pc mode on my voodoo3, but i think these are minor things to take care later. attach screenshot of aorg, alas i cannot effectively post here from my amiga since netsurf is too slow.
http://www.amiga.org/gallery/images/5312/1_ns1.jpg

i will play with it a bit, but could you fix the preferences dialog window to be able to use it, probably it needs some minimal sizes or working resize gadget.
btw, command find text causes priviledge violation and consequently crashes the system.

i just wondr if we could use some other, less heavy site to communicate, so that i can post logs and screenshots directly from my amiga. maybe aw.net. also download link to the test archive in an initial post instead trying to memorize to search it somewhere on the 21 page of a long thread.

[wawrzon]

Matthey?

ill try to reproduce it here with some log but matt isa more skilled with it for sure.

amigans.net is preferred by me, don't know whether it is any less heavy though.

probably only a bit if anything. however even if i still have an account there my posts would be deleted even before i would mention 68k, so no chance. sad is, almost any site seems to be too heavy for netsurf on amiga in its current state. i think we must stick to uae.

[wawrzon]

I'm not so sure of an endian problem. I'm using 16 bit "pc" here also.

strangely it didnt reproduce second time.

[wawrzon]

yea it works and may have gained some speedup.
for comparison some older netsurf sdl version opens amiga.org within 13.5s, it might be a fixed size font version and the resolution is a bit lower, so it isnbt a completely fair comparison, but it gives an idea. the reaction version needs close to a minute for the same.

[wawrzon]

It's always going to be slower with -v anyway.

measured without on my part.

I'll hold off uploading new builds for the minute until I merge the bitmap fonts stuff across.

give a hint as soon as its ready, i might stay in the studio tonight.

@utri007

Is download link same than in page 20?

21

[wawrzon]

find text seems to be working now, as far as i was able to recognize on the (mis)rendered page, at least it doesnt crash. tried to reply here from the amiga, but the browser is still too laggy, barely got past login..

[wawrzon]

It is faster than ever also. Awesome!!!

it still crawls even in comparison with sdl version. probably plotting gfx elements can still be optimized, but im not sure how to catch up with sdl fontend let alone surpass its speed. seems the claims of bernds opponents, sdl is slow, have been proven wrong.