ELBOX New Spider device

[wawrzon]

i think support for standard pciusb cards could be solved on 68k using openpci, prefferably under aros (68k). but as aros68k is aiming for highest possible compatibility with amiga os 1.x-3.x even on driver level it would probably be usable without aros too.

@chris: glad to hear that neil is going to port back some functionality to 68k. as i already said once it would be great to unify the poseidon aros and 68k api, so that improvements to aros builds automatically contribute to poseidon 68k.

and im sure michael_e3b is right about dma dependant mediator devices non working under os4.x on classics. there was enough statements form os4 devs about no support for such a hack and from my persopnal experience with os4 (as long as i have used it) i can confirm michaels statement.

[wawrzon]

what concerns rdb issue in elbox drivers i do not remember there was any proof that the code was malicious, only that the string was present after dissasembling. in this case it is just an assumption and rdb could stand for something else than "rigid disk block" or be put in there by mistake. as far as i remeber, there is no proof this code has ever caused any disk corruption. so execuse me if i now say, that i have an impression the whole campaign was an attempt at damaging elbox publc image in exchange for how they treated chris. i dont blame anybody for that, since it was an outcome of obviously unfair business practices, but in this case i would say lets put it to "bygones" for good.

[wawrzon]

@jj:
if so, another reason to go with open software. even elbox could be finbe with that as it could give them some more sell, even if not in rebadged pci devices sector. they should have concentrated on pcibridge solution as such long ago.

[wawrzon]

@matt: i think they are just a little feeble. dont care so much and try to earn some pennys hier and there without much trouble. f.i. they have given me some support on thirs party radeon. therefore they dont support pci, they just dont think much about it. but what could they do if openpci drivers opened some new possibilities even hurting their pci card sales? stop selling mediators at all? lets be serious.

@darrin: yeah that is good to have openpci as a sidekick to closed source drivers. and why none has developed a driver? because there is no devs left on aos. thank god we have some new aros devs like toni und jason dedicated mostly to 68k. jason has clearly expressed interrest to support pci bridges and much more on aros68k. its on todo list.

[wawrzon]

@Darrin,

I am using a SATA PCI card here on my A1200T with Mediator when running AmigaOS 4.1 Classic

nice for you, but since hyperion doesnt intend to support anything below ppc, 68k users have to rely on other possibilities. jason has already picked up the bounty to support ahci sata driver for aros:
http://www.power2people.org/projects/profile/32
and even if he had not expressed it explicitely (what he did) knowing that his work primarly adderss aros 68k we can assume it will come around end of the year. some preparations has already been done.

[wawrzon]

@matt: perhaps chris doesnt need to bother with that, if jason picks up the job.

[wawrzon]

@chris:
chris, sorry i wasnt around, only have red about the whole story afterwards. im not saying piru is lying about that, but was under impression it might be a wrong assumption after all. i had a regular customer support contact with elbox (mediator), and it just doesnt fit in my head that they might do such an evil thing as piru was accusing them of, but im apparently too trusting a person.

@matt: yes as far i know (jason) aros will take openpci into account on 68k. p96 drivers are already working on real hardware (zorro). ive tested cv64. still buggy though, but work.

[wawrzon]

You know full well what I mean.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frags  
Or you could spend the same money on a powermac and forget all this classic ****.
You seem to have mistaken apple.com and amiga.org

i think its been meant as mos promotion. even though a little too emotional to my taste. however as i suspect youre the guy who ranted on aw.net and then spent some serious amount of money on mos and os4 bounties you might have a reason to do so. the problem is, the scene is so diverse that its difficult to expect people to follow any common patch anymore.

wish you luck, but have chosen to stick with aros68k and the hardware i have for the time being. euae and radeon drivers might be of advantage to everyone if they be open sourced. however its not mine to tell..