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[wawrzon]

@franko: this was sorta cool game that many never heard of. remember playing it, never finished though.

[wawrzon]

yeah, but it had an atmosphere, and was quite surprising in how it turned out, after you initially was completely unsure what its gonna be. i remember it clumsy, but not unplayable, i dunno even what accel i did have at a time, b1230 i think. also it had some flaws or bugs, sure was easy to get stuck. later ive seen a pc version which was more detailed, still was cool to play on amiga.

[wawrzon]

this is why these multiplayers, especially fps are so pointless. campers, people sticking explosives to you while youre waiting to come back, all these dumb tricks that make it nothing more than running around firing blindly in all directions. once a friend of me has convinced me to open account to guild wars, it was fun for an hour, boring repetitive burden for following few weeks, and is now completely forgotten of. these games have no nothing.

[wawrzon]

Blizzard and their two billion dollars a year of profit disagree with you.  Or if you like, you can take your argument up with the hundreds of thousands of people who play TF2, Left 4 Dead (and L4D2), and on and on and on...

IOW,

Problem?

i dont need to take argument mit dumbnuts, even if they outnumber others by magnitudes. there is no much difference consuming alcohol, drugs or online fps, these things are not interesting by themselves.. they are there to run away from the reality.

[wawrzon]

my only point is that there is opium for the masses and this is the like of online fps, where the only thing you get is offloading your most atavistic aggressions in a kind of dumb trance. and there is more interesting stuff, which by definition needs to be single player, because otherwise you cant tell any story. online games have to be dumb and repetitive, and this how many people are playing them or not doesnt make them any better in my eyes.

[wawrzon]

thats right. ive witnessed such things. though i think if you seek company real life might suit you better. this is exactly the breaking point where it might become unhealthy. dragging you away, into the fantasy.. y know all that stuff. ok, im not going to evangelise.
therefore i prefer games that have a beginning and an end. like good book. not like a soap opera.

[wawrzon]

i recall one of final parties of my gymnasium class. happened that the guy has set up an 800xl, and half the people spent the time drinking in front of it and waiting for montezumas revenge to load. remember, it was like half an hour a tape and the setup was so shaky, it was constantly breaking down. few of my mates were freshly converted baptists, and one of them - particularly militant - told us, we were as if sitting and looking at a bare plank. there was nothing. it was a cool party even though.

[wawrzon]

Wrong.

Some gaming experiences are simply impossible without FPS (and thanks to Windows being so shit and PCs needing incredibly powerful CPUs just to run that rubbish acceptably).

Let me see...I can play Cannon Fodder on a 16bit machine...or...I can play Battlefield 2 for free with 63 other people in a photo-realistic sandbox environment. The only dumb asses are the ones who will tell me there is

a. a difference in the act of playing the game
b. playing cannon fodder is the more immersive of those gaming experiences.

Sometimes technology finds a useful application, in this case it is bloatware OS needing ludicrously powerful CPU just to double click some  desktop icons has led to super powerful game engines and liberated some, not all, game genres.

If you don't like it don't play, don't call people who roll with technology and enjoy the fruits of AMD/Intel's hard work in their current gaming dumb asses or other derogatory terms.

i must admit ive never played cannon fodder as well.

i think what is going wrong is that gaming tries to get to realistic. already in my speccy times i considered that the games just have to stay what they are supposed to be, just games. it might sound weird. heh or overly conservative, ok. i could bother a little with battlefield as long it was out in ww2 scenery (i ve got through the single player), it was making it a little more remote, more like fantasy. but this present setting just puts me off. it literally stinks of advocating modern warfare and trying to attract the people to it as if this was fun. sorry i cant cope with it. not only because i dont support this, but it also bores me. the same applies to titles like crysis btw, even if this is a little more of a fantasy setup, but in the end it boils down to the same.