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Offline wawrzon

Re: Kickstart ROM Replacement (Phase I) Bounty Assigned
« on: October 15, 2010, 01:48:05 PM »
Quote from: Hattig;584832
Minimig, FPGAArcade and Natami immediately come to mind.

I don't know what a monochrome Aros will look like for the OCS driver! I think someone needs to get cracking on a monochrome theme for AROS Zune.


you can test ot for yourself, just turn don the color depth to minimum on your afa screen. i have written a small gadgets rplacement for =<8bit afa screens (fat from perfect but works) and tested it on all screen depths. well, i think it looks way cool. a little like ur olde apple finder;).

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To help avoid the frustration I'd recommend using the same method MorphOS used: Take original KS ROM and replace components one at a time. This will help debugging a lot. You can easily switch between original and replacement modules to see where some issue might originate. Eventually you wil be able to get rid of the original KS ROM completely and run on your own.

@piru: i think it is quite important point worth to repeat again and again. the same technique applies to afa, thats why it works reliably. but i trust if someone has got already as far he will know that for himself

@thread: this bounty has maybe been taken and fallen many times already, but now it looks serious. also that it was assigned first after the coder has apparently made a proof of concept and the short assignment itself. if this is giong to be confirmed i will make some further funds loose for this, and am willing to test.
 

Offline wawrzon

Re: Kickstart ROM Replacement (Phase I) Bounty Assigned
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2010, 02:11:39 PM »
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Then you are talking of some Amigas, a new os oriented for rtg people isnt the real world talking of classic amigas.


ok, point taken, but if it stays reasonable compatible to these olde amigas (assume 500 sorts, which were anyway equipped with appropriate kickstart and os and probably cannot be expanded much beyound that) it is good to have an alternative to proprietary kickstart/os. even better if support for the amiga chipsets might be incorporated at some point.
 

Offline wawrzon

Re: Kickstart ROM Replacement (Phase I) Bounty Assigned
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2010, 07:01:23 PM »
kickstart rom has an advantage that the system critical files cannot be easily deleted or modified by malicious software or simple oversight.
i am totally happy with the huge flash the deneb provides that can be used for this. the only complaint was that i would prefer to have all single modules loose in a plain directory instead still have to include a bootable kickstart image along. updating would be simple then.
 

Offline wawrzon

Re: Kickstart ROM Replacement (Phase I) Bounty Assigned
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2010, 09:32:08 PM »
@darrin: no, i suppose there is no official sites you can download kickstart modules from for copyright reasons. also not every module fits every machine. so the best thing is get romsplit and remus utilities along with the patches they provide, disassemble your kickstart, patch modules and assemble again. if something went wrong, you can always start clear of your chnges mit denebs romoff option.

@kola: there were several projects like that, cosmos seems to be doing somthing alike and also on a1k there was an already tested project that never went into distribution. just as thor(r) says on natami.net the most difficult is not to design something but to produce and sell.

anyways individual computers have had a flash module product that fits into zorro slot, but dunno if this is bootable. elbox have had another similar, but i have never got it to boot. and finally i dont understand why not to get deneb instead, while you get both: a flexible flash and an usb controller all in one. the price couldnt be better. a1k diy solution had a target price of over 50 eut afair.

edit: typos, as always
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Offline wawrzon

Re: Kickstart ROM Replacement (Phase I) Bounty Assigned
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2010, 10:05:02 PM »
it is not too difficult (if i managed) and obviously an underrated feature. dont forget to include powerwindows module into your custom kick.
 

Offline wawrzon

Re: Kickstart ROM Replacement (Phase I) Bounty Assigned
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2010, 10:51:42 PM »
i think deneb is a cheap *and quality* solution in comparison to anything that you could buy from some freak that solders it at home. none would ever bend his finger for less than 50 bucks. and this is just reasonable. also am i wrong that the clockport usb controllers from eab also have some flash? surely it would be enough for non zorro amigas.
 

Offline wawrzon

Re: Kickstart ROM Replacement (Phase I) Bounty Assigned
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2010, 08:30:52 PM »
will do as soon as home again.
thanks for good news.