USB VIDEO ON THE DENEB?

[wawrzon]

@chris:
im usually not watching tv either (now and then only, in my girlfriends place), but regularly misuse my amigas for kinda multimedia projects where realtime tv and video surveillance is used for input. so i might throw some money into developement of according drivers. i think there are dvbt-cards decoding mpg streams in hardware but i dont know if  they are usb. right now im using elbox voodoo/tv-card combination that lacks dvbt support up till now so an alternative would be nice.  

[wawrzon]

im just back from an electronic shop, there are a lot pci tv_cards that are advertised as equipped with hardware mpeg2 decoder for a better performance. i didnt not really found something like that among usb dongles but i cant say i really looked close. i already asked elbox fot dvbt support and they said they might do something but im sure it will take if its gonna be achieved at all

[wawrzon]

i can try to get hold of hardware in question and send it to chris. btw i do not need no refunds in this case. but what i wonder is what kind of gfx card are we getting here, does it have some 3d capabilities such as could be used by w3d or so?

[wawrzon]

yes im located in berlin, germany. i can easily purchuase from pearl.de but will first check at local electronics store.

i too expect it will be pure 2d but wanted to check for 3d support since i assume this could be used to offload the main cpu and bus transfer (restricted by zorro and usb2) even for 2d graphics and get some reasonably fast graphics anyway.

voodoo3 has warp3d support through mediator drivers by the way (yes i know, it is a hack). i do not have this working through @ the mom. and: yes os3.x has very little 3d support but some rudimentary librarys exis that could be updated and from what i understood the people on amiforce.de are working on some kind of opengl support inside amiblitz but i could be wrong. (there was a talk of opengl includes anyway)

what concerns os4, i understand that minigl is being updated, but that doesnt concerns the classic users that much since 3.9 is better choice for a "deneb-system".

well, im off to shop first.

[wawrzon]

ah, and how about this:
http://www.diwa-shop.de/idealo.jsp?artId=0-61-DA-70820
would it be too much for a classic (say even with a ppc)?

[wawrzon]

the link is not dead, but in case u cannot access it for some reason this is what ive meant:
Digitus Videokarte USB2.0 Video Grabber DA-70820

to clarify:i do not expect a 060 based amiga to be able to decompress and display full blown 768or720x576 avi or mpg2 video in realtime by itself. i thought of some kind of tandem like a pci_tv_card and f.i. voodoo3 with its overlay function on mediator. using such a configuration i can easily put video_input in bacground of an amiga animation just like a simple color_keying genlock would do on aga. the question is: if said usb_gfx_dongle woud support something like that or if there are any other devieces capable of.

well back from shop at the moment, but they denied the existence of such hw. so if chris accepts i will order the piece. as i said i do not need any refunds. there are a lot of developments still left to support.  

[wawrzon]

ok, the piece has been ordered. i hope it arrives soon. i'll keep u posted.
@platon42: is this ur current adress i in my deneb manual? otherwise pm me where to send it, please.

[wawrzon]

well, the way i read it chris has accepted to look into the case as soon as somone supports him with hardware he pointed to. it is naturally up to his good will.

[wawrzon]

Which piece exactly did you order? Hopefully not the video grabber...

no, exactly what you wanted to have i hope:
http://www.pearl.de/a-PX3103-1419.shtml
i will pm you as soon it arrives at my door.

the videograbber comes next. lol.

[wawrzon]

@platon42:
and as for the DA-70820 videograbber i cannot find any info if it is compatible with uvc. probably the easiest way to determine this was to buy it and try it out since it isnt that expensive. i think, i will look into it on my peecee. apart of that i think it might be really interesting to have uvc driver so if you plan on this, i would be happy to be of any assistance i am able of (sorry, not a coder).

[wawrzon]

the video adapter has just arrived. im going to forward it to chris as soon as its possible.

[wawrzon]

hi all! just back from munich this morning and see there has been quite some traffic on the thread. chris get enough sleep, please. it is not all that urgent.

But about false advertising: The adapter sold at Pearl only goes up to 1280x1024 and not to 1600x1200 as they say on the website. wawa should report that.

is it definite? if so i could fill a complaint, but pearl isnt that dependable anyway.

@all: im repeating this for th last time: thanks folks, but i do not need a refund on this. im happy to support.

[wawrzon]

ok. so we will probably have to find some dongle with dl-160 later but i hope what u have now is enough to prove a point either way.

PS: i love to sleep, and i have to catch up now after i spent the night ina train

[wawrzon]

@darrin: thats an attitude i appreciate

[wawrzon]

@platon42:
hi chris. i quote here the answer iv received from pearl on my complaint. seems to me bllsht since 1600x1200 is a 4:3 resolution but wanted to hear what u say.
@all: sorry for a german quote but this is just support issue i wanted to notify chris about.

Ihre Anfrage an den PEARL-Kundenservice


Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren,

vielen Dank für Ihre Anfrage und das uns entgegengebrachte Vertrauen.

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