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Re: How about creating a Open AMIGA Consortium?
« Reply #14 from previous page: March 25, 2008, 10:25:54 PM »
For anyone who is happy to abandon everything that makes the amiga special, the answer is obvious, get a PC.
 

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Re: How about creating a Open AMIGA Consortium?
« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2008, 10:47:01 PM »
I have no real need for a computer, I don't even play games much, I use a PC ONLY to access the internet, so my a4000 is more than adequate for my needs.
I will however, get a Natami when I can afford it, with an '060 not a coldfire or ppc.
 

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Re: How about creating a Open AMIGA Consortium?
« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2008, 11:08:06 PM »
When I can get a webbrowser for the amiga/natami that does "everything" then I can put the PC in the back of a cupboard.
I can use a library computer, so no, I don't NEED a computer.
I feel a rant coming on about all these "new fangled gadgets". :roll:
 

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Re: How about creating a Open AMIGA Consortium?
« Reply #17 on: March 25, 2008, 11:34:39 PM »
OK, I give up, I need a computer, I just don't USE a computer enough to justify the expense.
 

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Re: How about creating a Open AMIGA Consortium?
« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2008, 12:15:38 AM »
We are all well aware that it's not just hardware that needs to be updated, the operating system also needs to be upgraded.
BUT, we need to ensure that we end up with something recognisably amigalike, NOT PC like.
There really is no point, and no inclination to reinvent the PC  in the image of the amiga.
I/We want a modern amiga compatible not a PC running UAE or AROS.

In the late 70's, the advice to computer buyers was, choose the software you want to run then buy the computer that runs it.
You have the PC to run your software. The Amigalike is different, it's demand and possession defies logic, so what.

Maybe we will get lucky and someone, or the community will write new software for it. but, truth be told, it does not really matter whether new software is written or not, it will still sell.
The PC is a workhorse, it's for work. The amiga is a hobby, it's for fun.
 

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Re: How about creating a Open AMIGA Consortium?
« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2008, 01:10:23 AM »
The PC is not state of the art, it's just fast, the amiga was state of the art in 1984 and the PC is still not there yet, future amiga compatibles could set a new benchmark that will take the PC another 20 years to match.
In the beginning, users wrote their own programs, now with a developed open source model, we may do just fine without commercial developers.
The software we use in future will evolve from software available now. it will be efficient, not bloated like PC software.
Without sharks preying on the users, we may get software that does all we need at minimal cost.
 

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Re: How about creating a Open AMIGA Consortium?
« Reply #20 on: March 26, 2008, 02:49:56 AM »
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We are all well aware that it's not just hardware that needs to be updated, the operating system also needs to be upgraded.
BUT, we need to ensure that we end up with something recognisably amigalike, NOT PC like..


I remember trying to put cards into a 386 and get it to run windows 3.1 for work - and pulling my hair out as I messed with jumpers and hardware incompatability and those %^#$!ing IRQ's!  Where the Amiga was ... autoconfig.. I don't need to think about it - I turn it on and it will work.

I went through the experience again a few months ago after being away from a real Amiga in a decade.. and I was 'holy crap - I gotta get x ram and switch y jumper, cut z trace - get THIS version of software and THAT patch.... arrrrgh!'

they have changed places - the current state of Plug and Play (which when it was first introduced I called Plug and PRAY) is where Autoconfig cards would be NOW had the Amiga continued and followed its logical progression.

Amiga was about taking the best things you could find and making something truely excellent and innovative out of them.


As I said, the operating system needs to be modernised.

Where I said it should not become a clone of the windows, I meant it should be small and efficient, it should allow the user to do what they want, not what microsoft will allow, it should not become an instrument of extortion through DRM.
Think about the things you don't like about the PC and ensure they are not incorporated in a future amigalike OS.

Similarly the hardware should be carefully considered, one  problem with the PC is the variety of hardware and versions of drivers, an FPGA common chipset will minimise such difficulties, a PC graphics card could still be installed, if you want the hassle.