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Offline HenryCase

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Re: OOOOOOO….what could THIS be
« on: April 03, 2011, 02:55:59 AM »
Quote from: Wayne;627058
Ok.  Now I'm mad, and I've rewritten this about a dozen times, because -- like an argument you know you'll have with your wife when you get home -- I just knew that the moment that someone posted anything about Amiga's upcoming tablet, all the little negative cockroaches would scurry out from the cupboard to do anything they could to trash the idea.

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While I wish there were something more "Amiga" about an Android tablet, and even though I already own a far superior iPad, even *I* think that the move towards supporting Android is the right way to go for Amiga Inc.

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The way I see it, you can either be part of the problem, or part of the solution, and hell, even I'll probably toss in to buy an Amiga Android tablet, if for no other reason than to get in on the ground floor of developing for it.


Wayne, firstly you've jumped the gun a little with your post. There was only one or two strongly negative posts here, which considering the opinionated nature of the Amiga community as a whole is pretty mild. I thought you would have developed a thicker skin by now, perhaps you just had a bad day, happens to everyone.

As for the whole 'you can either be part of the problem, or part of the solution', it's worth taking a step back and examining what we're discussing. What is it that we are looking to develop? Is our attachment to the Amiga computer or the Amiga brand that keeps us here?

It's an interesting question, one that often arises. The obvious answer is that its the Amiga computer that we're interested in, but the brand clearly has it own draw too. It's not as simple as just saying it's the hardware we like, as there were similar devices to Amiga that we don't find ourselves discussing (such as the one home computer that was arguably superior to the Amiga at the time, the Sharp X68000). The draw with the Amiga is the whole experience: hardware, software, community.

What is iconic embodiment of the Amiga experience. Some will point to the OS, and it has been the development of the Amiga-like OS choices that has largely kept the Amiga scene fresh. I'm personally more drawn to the hardware, so the new FPGA Amigas are the most interesting projects for me (as well as AROS).

Maybe this makes me 'part of the problem'. Perhaps there's something I'm not understanding, in that I don't see what's exciting about Commodore or Amiga-branded products that don't have the Amiga hardware, software or community legacy backing them up. To put it bluntly, why should I care? I mean, I already have a decent PC, if I'm buying something else I would like it to offer something different from what I've already got.

If bringing back a higher level of brand awareness for Amiga is what you're hoping for, then I can understand that, but let's face it, the brand will represent something different. It's like what happened to the Atari brand, where the company that originally built up the brand is long gone, and the name is used to enhance the profile of a different company (game publisher Infogrammes changed their name to Atari, SA. in 2009, according to Wikipedia).

It's tricky to separate the name from the experience: MorphOS users had to do it, AROS users too, and now C=USA is indirectly forcing AmigaOS users to do the same. I'd say the resistance is understandable, but hopefully once the dust settles we'll realise the computers we enjoy haven't gone anywhere, and we'd be better off leaving similarly-named but different products to those that enjoy them.
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Re: OOOOOOO….what could THIS be
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2011, 03:06:55 AM »
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No one, whether AI, Genesi, or anyone else will ever (nor could they ever) build anything "Amiga" (to your definitions) that would ever satisfy any of you (or become a commercial success).


Who cares if an 'Amiga' is a commercial success? It doesn't matter now, the time when that mattered has long since past. The community now has control of the platform (Minimig + AROS), as long as I can obtain a computer I enjoy using I don't care if I can't buy it in a shop, and I don't care if the masses aren't interested. It's a hobby. If anyone has got delusions of grandeur, it's not those who still enjoy the classics, it's those people who think success is driven by how many units are sold.
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Re: OOOOOOO….what could THIS be
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2011, 10:54:22 PM »
Quote from: danwood;627277
Imagine how Apple fans would feel is some cheap Asian OEM started putting out "Macs" in replica cases running Windows 7 or Ubuntu, they'd be foaming at the mouth and find it a huge insult.


Not exactly what you meant, but this is pretty similar:
http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/29/meizus-m8-apple-lawyers-start-your-engines/

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Any chance you could tone down the vitriol a little?
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Re: OOOOOOO….what could THIS be
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2011, 10:56:17 AM »
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Why are some so positive about hardware emulation of a $20 Amiga 500 at over $200 for the completed board (IIRC and yes I do know it does some more like being able to connect to modern displays and using SD instead of failing floppy drives to read failing floppies, it is good that folks are finding ways to get the feel of the old machines in peoples hands in lieu of failing and increasingly hard to come by hardware antiques)


The FPGAArcade can recreate more than just an A500, I take it you missed the AGA developments. Worth taking another look.
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