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Offline HenryCase

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Re: Amount of MorphOS copies sold
« Reply #29 from previous page: March 13, 2012, 09:34:58 PM »
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I know. Just wanted to shorten hundreds of posts into one line.


Thank you for doing so.
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Re: Amount of MorphOS copies sold
« Reply #30 on: March 14, 2012, 01:44:18 PM »
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It is human nature to defend and justify the choices we make


Why do you feel your choices need defending? It's not human nature at all, it's all down to the individual. For example, I'm not a fan of Apple, and occassionally I get people saying I should get an iPhone. I don't feel insecure about choosing an N900, and I don't feel the need to defend my choice, beyond a simple 'my phone is right for me', or something along those lines.

Usually the people that shout loudest to defend their choices, are the ones that are most insecure. If you're truly happy with decision, then this 'defending' becomes largely unnecessary. Please note I'm not singling you out here, this is just a general observation.
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Re: Amount of MorphOS copies sold
« Reply #31 on: March 14, 2012, 05:35:18 PM »
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Thats funny because I have an N900 and would argue the toss against iPhone users.  Then I used an Iphone and I cant believe the annoance of using systems like maemo and android anyway thats not the point....
 
Are you mental.  Thats great that you dont feel the need to support shout about the choice of os, computer, car football team etc you make.
 
Most people do, you are inthe minority.  I am not saying this is how things should be, just they way they are.  Sorry when I use the words "I" and "You" I should reallyh be using "One".


Am I mental?

Here's the thing; I don't define myself through what I buy. Perhaps that is unusual in the consumerist culture we live in, but I don't see what I buy as an extension of who I am, or at least I don't take it personally if others choose something else.

Football team is a good analogy. I couldn't care less about other teams, nor their performance, as long as my team plays well then I'm happy. I don't care if someone supports another team, the performance of my team is what I enjoy.

Does that make more sense to you?
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Re: Amount of MorphOS copies sold
« Reply #32 on: March 15, 2012, 12:13:24 AM »
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I perfectly understand you.  I think maybe mental was too strong a word.  I was saying that most people are not like you is all .  Was trying to explain why people defend things the way they do is all.


There are patterns of behaviour in our social interactions, that are most likely derived from our tribal roots, where you get people who want to 'belong' to something, whether that be a social group, an ideal, a nationality, etc... The people who need this sense of 'belonging' the most tend to the people who are the most insecure. This ties in with what I was saying before.

Human nature is something that's bred into us, something we have little control over. Getting worked up about something is always a choice. Some people may be more indisposed towards aggression than others, but they always have a choice. I personally find the term 'human nature' gets misused quite a bit, and invariably the outcome of this misuse is in people distancing themselves from personal responsibility, blaming their genes for their lack of self-control. Again, I'm not singling you out, this is just a general observation.

So let's say this, you notice people 'defending' things a lot, not just in the Amiga community, but also in the world at large. The question is why do you see a lot of it? Put human nature aside for one minute, and try and consider other explanations.

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Re: Amount of MorphOS copies sold
« Reply #33 on: March 15, 2012, 12:04:15 PM »
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You see, Henry made a Case on how the possibility of MorphOS would have more users than OS4 would be an inconceivable, extraordinary claim, just wishful thinking, not anything based in reality, and he based this upon "facts" like posting frequency on web forums, the general opinion, and Aminet *uploads*.


I've let this slide for a while, but since you keep bringing it up, let's clarify the purpose behind the 'forum activity' and 'Aminet uploads' comments was and is.

The remarks about forum activity and Aminet uploads were intended as anecdotal evidence, a way to assess the level of activity surrounding the OS, since 'active users' were rightly being seen as different from 'users'; people who just try out the OS vs. people that are engaged with using it.

However, you should note that, unlike you, I never tried to use this ancedotal evidence as the basis for a guess on user numbers. There isn't a single perfect way to measure 'active' users, but forum activity and software uploads do give you some idea for the general trends in activity and interest.

Let's remind ourselves of the context in which the comments were made. You said:
"About 700 active MorphOS users would mean 2x the amount of about 300 active OS4 users coupled with some 50 active AROS users.

But again, your guess is as good as mine..."

Then I said:
"That's your guess. Okay. Let's look at it another way. How active are the following forums"

So as you can see, I was offering an alternative perspective on activity around an OS. You then assume I can use this perspective to give you a number of users, I never made such a claim.

In this whole thread, I never saw you come up with a single measure of how to look at 'active' users, rather than users as a whole. Do you have an alternative way to explore this, or do you now admit there is no way to know how many of those registered MorphOS copies are still in use (beyond shrieking 'they paid for it, so they must be using it')?

Do you understand now?

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Re: Amount of MorphOS copies sold
« Reply #34 on: March 15, 2012, 06:58:41 PM »
@takemehomegrandma
I don't know about you, but I'm getting quite tired of this thread. Neither of us is going to 'win', so how about we call a truce? I'll stop posting in this thread if you do the same. Deal?
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Re: Amount of MorphOS copies sold
« Reply #35 on: March 16, 2012, 10:59:38 AM »
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of course there is culprits on both sides, but none of these amiga os4 culprits goes over to morphzone.org and start trolling all over the place for years.


A1260, amiga.org is not an OS4 only site, it's a cross platform Amiga site.
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Re: Amount of MorphOS copies sold
« Reply #36 on: March 16, 2012, 02:16:58 PM »
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A couple of people have tried AROS in the last week... http://vmwaros.blogspot.com.au/2012/03/3000-times-thank-you.html I wonder how many would consider themselves an AROS user? More then 50 i would guess ;)


Can add 300 downloads from AspireOS to this number (and that's all over the past 6 days):
http://aros-exec.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=65028#forumpost65028

However, as we know, downloads != 'active users'.
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