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AmigaONE vs. PowerMac G4 Direct comparison
« on: July 18, 2003, 07:31:58 PM »
Finally we have current products from both companies to make a direct comparison.

I will use the Apple Store, and American Dealer Softhut to make direct comparison of price and features.

I know from past experience, that a lot of people just jump up and down questioning details, but please, if you have a better AmigaONE dealer, please post that dealers prices and specs.  

Thanks:

SoftHut pre-configured AmigaONE specs:

G4-XE at 800Mhz
256MB SDRAM
80GB IDE Drive
52x CDRW drive
ATI Radeon 7000 64mb
Sound Blaster live card
10/100 Ethernet
Mouse/keyboard/ports...Debian Linux
Price $1395

The Apple Store
G4 running at 1.25Ghz
256MB DDR333 SDRAM
80GB IDE Drive
DVD/CDRW Drive
ATI Radeon 9000 Pro
Sound, yes, brand not listed
Gigabit ethernet
mouse/keyboard/ports, inc. firewire...Mac OS X
$1299

Conclusion:
apple machine is much faster and is 100 dollars cheaper.

Apple does have one 800Mhz G4 left in the lineup, but the $799 G4 eMac with built in monitor is not as a direct comparison in my opinion.
 

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Re: AmigaONE vs. PowerMac G4 Direct comparison
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2003, 07:40:46 PM »
oh I did leave out a couple points,
apple's machine is 4x AGP, Eyetech's is 2xAGP.

the DDR ram in the Mac is probably not that big of an advantage, considering the G4 memory access mechanism.

Support should definately favor the mac, but thats a big issue to discuss.

Finally, the Mac won't ever legally run OS 4, and the AmigaONE *DOES NOT LEGALLY* run Mac OS X.

But since people feel free to steal Mac OS X, I imagine the converse will be true as well.

 

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Re: AmigaONE vs. PowerMac G4 Direct comparison
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2003, 10:38:25 PM »
@kolla

I used Mac OS X since the public beta.
And I've used linux...

for some things linux was way ahead, but on powerpc, well, you can get Oracle for Mac OS X, but not linux on PPC....linux on x86 is another story.

You begin to see Mac OS X pulling ahead in that, like Microsoft office, Adobe, Corel....supporting Mac OS X but not Linux PPC....and then you find that with the inclusion of X server in the OS with OS X 10.3 ....its is so easy to port linux software, you get all of os x only, and really most linux software too.....

I wouldn't be surprised if the next step is a binary compatibility layer...but even without speculation on the future, Mac OS X is very mature with big players behind it...on PPC platform its ahead of linux by far.

Well 7 million users, compared to a few thousand should make that obvious....

but LInux is a powerful solution...no doubts, I won't knock linux.

Besides, it doesn't matter...Debian Linux will run on the Mac hardware too.
 

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Re: AmigaONE vs. PowerMac G4 Direct comparison
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2003, 10:52:58 PM »
Quixote:

mass production drives costs to the manufacturer down, it doesn't drive the price down.  And its the price, that the end user is concerned with...not the costs to the person selling the product...there is a difference between the companies concern and the purchasers concern.

It's true, people pay a price for being an early adopter.  But then again, companies pay a price for gouging people too.  Which is why you don't see the G5's coming in at $10,000 dollars, but you paid that to buy an Apple Lisa.

You also paid thousands upon thousands to be the first to own a 386, but not so much to get in early on the first Pentiums...in other words, that premium is less and less as time goes on, because the window to overcharge early adopters is very slim in an ultra competitive environment.

IBM paid dearly in terms of marketshare for making some big bucks off early adopters...and eventually found they were barely relevant in a market they once owned.

So...while I think the early adopter idea is an idea with merit, it should also be put in context of the idea, that the onus of responsibility for success does not lay entirely square on the shoulders of the consumer, but is also a responsibility born by the company who intends to be a success.

In fact, it is by far, more so their responsibility, and I lied, its not really the responsibility of the consumer in any way shape or form, I was just being patronizing, sorry.

It goes without saying, if Amiga/Eyetech cannot drop the price, and do it soon, they don't have a chance.
They can't expand the market, the number of people willing to be early adopters is going to dry up....and finally, they have a competent competitor in Genesi willing to take the market share they are volunteering to give away.