Teron PX ATX PowerPC motherboard

[MarkTime]

From http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com

Teron PX ATX PowerPC motherboard, YDL: $499.00 + Shipping

They list an 800mhz G4.

800mhz, Teron PX motherboard, $499

How many HUNDREDS of dollars are you sending Genesi and/or Eyetech in premium?

And remember, terrasoft is not a charity, they make a lot of money out of this, and they also developed YDL, a linux derivative, yes, but more R&D was spent on that than morphos and AOS4 combined.

So why do they find it in their hearts not to gouge?

Anyway, this won't ship till mid-february, so until then its not real, but I see some SERIOUS price corrections need to be made, and soon.

I advice anyone DON'T BUY NOW, WAIT.

NEVER PRE-ORDER.

[MarkTime]

fyi,

800mhz G4 pre-order from my dealer...www.softhut.com  $879

so to answer my one question...

the 'name'  costs $380.
$380 premium for OS 4 certification.


As soon as someone is actually shipping, I will call this highway robbery....until then, look how the difference in cost on all this vaporware.

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[MarkTime]

(edited post about pounds and dollars because Paul got it first)....n/m

[MarkTime]

Terrasoft is not selling the G3/600mhz board at all.
They changed their website only on January 31st.

A man from the company confirmed to me that the specs of their boxer series had changed and would now be a G4/800mhz, and that he would update the website on that day, the 31st.

However, he also told me, even then, that the official announcement wouldn't be until mid-february.

I think they are waiting till it ships, so as not to get burned again on slipping release dates.

In any event, $499 is not an unreasonable price for this board.  I am not concerned about their quick update of the website, a few pictures of a G3 were just an oversight, they are not selling a G3 model.

If they have listed the price wrong, that is just stupid....but who knows, as I mentioned in the beginning, this product is not shipping so it is just vaporware at the moment...though I think it probably will ship soon, and then we will know.

btw the G4/800 without L2 cache sell for $299 from giga designs....that is a mac upgrade card.  so $499 for G4/800 with ancient 2xAGP, 3PCI slot, 133mhz ram motherboard is not out of the question, and I think it is the actual price.

But of course, until it ships I don't believe anything...just thought it was interesting.

[MarkTime]

@captainfrank,

they really do overcharge 'ya'll' somtimes over there....www.macsales.com  $299 us dollars for G4 800mhz cpu upgrade card.  You'll have to traverse the site, I don't have the specific link handy.

That is the card without the L2 cache....sonnettech and some of the others have the L2 cache, and they run closer to $399 us dollars.

But I believe the AmigaONE is sans L2 cache as well, so its a fine comparison in this case.

The gigabit ethernet logic boards for macs cost $150, new, on ebay, and the $299 giga designs card, would make a G4 cpu/motherbaord come in at $449 beating everyone's price.....but its an unsupported frankenmac....

Don't know why but those gigabit ethernet logic boards are always on sale cheap on e-bay...apple must have made too many or something...but they take a real weird power supply so, its not quite so simple.

On the other hand, they do run Mac OS X, which these other boards do not (MOL doesn't count because MOL DOES NOT HANDLE 3D acceleration)....

who wants a comp without 3d acceleration....

anyway.....I am posting far too much today, I better go work some.

[MarkTime]

I don't believe in piracy, but for $380 dollars ...well shiver me timbers, fly that jolly roger, put a hook on my hand and call me captain, cause I'll step on your skull to save 380 dollars....

ok, I don't know where I'm going with this, but I'm not paying a 380 dollar premium for OS4.

That was not an endorsement for piracy.

160 euro's for OS 4?  OK, I can see how you arrived at the price, but don't forget to subtract out the linux distro that you don't need to buy...suse 7.3 is 66 eur, and YDL is $29.

[MarkTime]

The board you mentioned is a G3/600, not a G4/800, so you aren't comparing apples to apples.

However, all of this is vapor so we'll have to meet again and compare shipping products (if that ever happens again)

But the pegasos is cheaper than the A-one, at least in the states.

[MarkTime]

@anarchic,

yes I was referring to L3 cache, not L2 cache.  Which I almost corrected, but it was late....still you are right, and I was adding to the confusion just a bit, thanks for the correction.

However, I do think they can sell a teron px for $499 and make plenty of money.  In the PC world an 800mhz processor on 2xAGP motherboard would go for, ohhh 99 dollars maybe.

This isn't the same, I know...but $499 is FIVE TIMES AS MUCH...that should cover the difference of the smaller market.  You know MAI just makes a cheap @#$#@ chipset, those  chips aren't made of gold, they aren't even up to date...so, long story short, the real thing that caries the premium is the G4 chip, but going for the ultra-low end 800mhz model is SUPPOSED to be taking part of that sting away.

whatever happens, happens....I am willing to wait until February to compare shipping prices...I never had any intention of pre-ordering anything, so I was always safe.

my opinion, wait for stock, always wait for stock, prices go down

imho

[MarkTime]

@bbrv

I can admit I puzzled over that name for a few seconds, but there is more interesting drama at the moment, I'll certainly save that potential conspiracy theory for another day.

I knew of Terrasoft from their YDL product, but the first promise they ever made, that I cared about, was the 'Janurary' release date of the Boxer...they blew that, bad bad terrasoft.

Still,  we can deconstruct any company to death, Terrasoft ships products at competitive prices, because they operate in a competitive market.  I am sure they aren't concerned about Amiga, but rather competitive threats in the emerging ppc linux field...such as hemeris and especially apple...

Sooooooooooo I think its great, very exciting, and I sure hope somehow it translates into an exciting Amiga market too....

[MarkTime]

@poweramiga2002,

He's just running that up the pole to see if it flies...there are a lot of reasons why the G4 is faster than a G3...and no reason why an 800mhzG4 would be slower than a 600mhzG3.

If they were clocked the same, we could talk about cache sizes and altivec coding and have a real bru-haha of a discussion, but luckily, they just aren't the same.

[MarkTime]

@Downix,

first the good, I think it is good that the board isn't another exact PX clone, we already have those, so this represents a new choice.

The micro-atx factor is going to be good for people who need it, firewire is nice to have included already, if you need it.

Thats good, if people need it and some do, but not me, so my purchase isn't impacted a whole lot by those things.  

Here is what I think about price/performance specs...its the most important thing to me, but not necessarily this market....we are not so price sensitive, but we are VERY performance sensitive.

Apple's best selling models are not their sub-1000 models...yes they go for that market, but their best iMac, is also their most expensive iMac.  

The same goes true for the remaining Amiga market, we are hard core zealots, we don't want to get ripped off a-la eyetech, but the fact that so many people pre-ordered a 880 dollar board, shows that we are willing to spend the $$$, but for the fastest board around.

I personally want the cheapest board...but I think far more people actually don't mind the 880 price, heck they'll spend a 1,000 dollars....just give them the fastest/sexiest machine around.

compete on the high end/not the low end...thats were this market is...where the mark up is...its a win win situation.

I think its a mistake to try and convince people that the G3 is fine.....

my 1 1/2 cents