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Re: NatAmi 68070 design draft
« on: June 25, 2008, 11:54:59 AM »
Whenever Natami is mentioned, it seems inevitable that the project team members will eventually be ridiculed.  I've been watching threads on other sites and I already can guess how it will end here as well...  No wonder they prefer to discuss only on their official site!

Ok, maybe certain design aspects are being under-estimated, but with all the 'I know better' style of comments is this the right way to encourage them?  Or do we have here a bunch of people who find delight in seeing others fail?  

Without knowing how they are implementing the system, who are we to judge about clock speeds and such?  Maybe they are doing a parallel design, and obtain 200MHz equivalent speed through parallelism?  Maybe they are basing work on TG68?  Who knows?

Their idea of using a custom 68k implementation is that they can tweak caches to snoop the chipset bus/registers or something like that.  Whatever that means, it seems like a good idea to me, and NO ONE should be telling them that it's not worth the trouble.  They will do their tests and they will decide whether to pursue that or not.

Whatever it may be they're doing, I believe that lots of people on this forum can provide great input to the developers about certain specs for the system, rather than criticising their decisions or claims.

Now that I got this off my chest, I'll just enjoy the whole Natami show as a spectator, and who knows, maybe I'll buy one as a toy someday.  Apart from that, this thread has become quite amusing lately thanks to fan #1...
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Re: NatAmi 68070 design draft
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2008, 08:22:57 PM »
@Atheist
You need a reality check, mate.  The Amiga is technically light years behind.  The Natami has nice specs, but its place in time would still be somewhere around year 2001 or so.

By the way, about getting a NatAmi60...don't count on it.  No matter how much you are able to pay.  A dev machine sold to people who can't contribute by hitting the metal and actually fixing bugs might as well be thrown away.

I suggest you go and buy yourself an Intel quad-core, some SATA RAID, couple of SLI cards and try a couple of PC games.  Try not to wet yourself.

@The rest
Come on guys, what could have been a great, down to earth technical discussion has just been a fight about what non-sense Natami could be. Why care so much about backwards compatibility anyway?  There are already other solutions such as genuine hardware and emulation.  I don't think there's need for another Amiga clone.  It would mean staying where we are.

Why so much hate and anger towards this project?  Is it fear of change?  I really think Natami is a very interesting proposal.  This is some new creativity for god's sake!  For once someone is not only trying to replicate old technology but thinking of moving it forward!  Whether they succeed or not, well, it still is a nice try.  And no matter whether the project has taken 5 years already, so what?  Did this guy steal any of your time by taking initiative to do something creative with his own time?

I, for one was dreaming of filling the remaining space in my minimig's FPGA with some additional funky hardware for cool demo effects and stuff.  You know, doing something creative in hardware.  Now, if I ever were to do it, I guess it would be best to keep it to myself, tell no one and release nothing, lest I be a judged insane and my motivations questioned...
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