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Offline RW222

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Alas my desire for aquisitions exceeds my supply of latinum...

But for those of us that would jump in and buy excess stock when we had excess cash...

How complete is complete? Just got a little confused 'coz there was talk of cases and joypads etc. and $200 sounds a little on the high side for it. Guess that's due to amortising setup costs over small number of units.
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Not to say the regime and conditions are perfect by any means, but you do have to remember when seeing shock horror reports that some workers only get paid $5 a week, that basic necessities are also dirt cheap. If you do the "package tour" type visit there, you'll pay western type prices for a big-mac but the locals would be getting their "fast food" from roadside stalls for like 3-5 cents for a meal.

IMO, things will only change there as the economy fully develops into a free market, free enterprise economy, that will only happen through external trade. Political and social change will probably result in time. Ergo, refusing to trade with China is like condemning them to eternal insular communism. IMO transition from warring feudal societies to democratic unified state takes about 50-100 years of political stability under a hardass monarch, dictator, colonial administration etc. Then democracy will take hold successfully. Can't be rushed, the tribal feuding has to pass from living memory, then democracy can take hold, try it too early and it's highly likely to break down into a feudal mess of competing warlords. So looking at it that way, a communist dictatorship is a larval stage for democracy (one of several types). Russians just came out of it, China wasn't unified under it until post WWII so they might have a few years yet.

Anyhoo, whaddaya gonna do, refuse to buy products made by 12 y.o.'s such that they starve in the streets instead, send money for relief and let them hate you for the loss of their dignity. Or participate in the process of letting the country pull itself up by it's bootstraps (painfully slow to watch) which appears to me the surest way to lasting change. They might seem to be taken advantage of at this point in time, but 3 Billion people aren't going to let a few multi-nationals walk all over them forever.

Then you might say "What about the jobs in my country" well what about them, if something would never happen due to expense of doing it here, it's hardly a loss to make it happen by getting it done somewhere affordable is it? In fact, since the ICs are from, or licensed from, US companies, there's probably more of a net benefit in doing it elsewhere than not doing it at all. Proper jobs at a fair union wage you say...... develop that thought..... extend to ultimate logical political conclusion..... it ends with pretending to work, while the govt pretends to pay you, after several years of which, and the queueing for bread, you might decide that working 80 hour weeks for $5 in a capitalist economy isn't such a bad idea to get the country on it's feet again. Swings and roundabouts.... we've got some imbalance at the moment, supporting the high side, or holding down the low side, is an exercise in artificial stability... let the balance ease into place, supporting the high side until it becomes heavy enough to crush the support, results in carnage.


But, not meaning to threadjack, just saying that if you think you've got ideological objections to the method and place of manufacture, just take a look at the long term and big picture and make sure you haven't got your ideology on backwards.
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