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Offline kreciu

Re: Phase 5 Digital Products comeback?
« on: September 28, 2016, 06:59:49 PM »
PPC on classic Amiga is quite expensive way of running ppc datatypes under ClassicOS. It is $800+ mp3 player or slow .jpg viewer :).

Yes, I know there is a Quake PPC...

I could get new PPC board for my classic for about $300 :)
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Offline kreciu

Re: Phase 5 Digital Products comeback?
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2016, 11:07:01 PM »
If I want raw speed of my Amiga I run UAE, problem is that there is no software I can use on this "Amiga" or real Amiga.

To play with Amiga hardware there is plenty parts, extension and combinations to keep me busy for some time. If (when?) I will get my PPC for A1200 for good price, I will play with it, but I don't really have to get it.
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Offline kreciu

Re: Phase 5 Digital Products comeback?
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2016, 03:17:31 PM »
One thing is clear. Without leadership and goal in development of AmigaOS, software and hardware for it NOTHING will "change". There is no particular goal in sight, there is only whole bunch of old Amiga users tweaking old systems with some sort of nostalgia that makes them do it.

Nothing wrong about it, but I'm quite sure many of you would like to see AmigaOS/hardware to develop into something more that just a hobby... but at the same time when new would come all this "classic" would be totally obsolete and it would end up the same as any 486DX or Mac Classic... in some way it is actually GOOD we don't have new hardware and software.

There are some hobby solutions like Vampire, ACA etc. and it is great for sure, but why PPC for classic Amiga's if there are (??) motherboards from AmigaOS 4.1 (much FASTER) and Classic can run FAST on PC?

It is like walking in circle or running after your own tail. Faster is better? Faster will not brining ANY new quality into Amiga environment, faster is actually available for Amiga for a loooong time.
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Offline kreciu

Re: Phase 5 Digital Products comeback?
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2016, 04:04:14 AM »
Quote from: Heiroglyph;814611
Working on a platform I have no emotional attachment to.

The PPC systems are neither current nor retro, so there's not much interest from people like myself.
To me it's much more interesting to tweak old systems with some sort of nostalgia.

For those who want a PPC system, more power to them, I just wish that the people with the license to the OS cared about the same market I do, which is 68k.


I don't mind if it is 68k, PPC or... i486 ;). IMO problem (I expressed this once of twice ;) ) is not a lack of hardware. There is like few billion PC that can run AmigaOS3.1 and/or with 1000+ MIPS and... who cares?

Speed will not bring quality software. I tried AmigaOS4.1 on my PC and... I turned it on last time about 6 months ago. There is nothing I can do using AmigaOS. OK. I could post on this forum :P.

I have installed UAE (both versions) on PC and... basically there is no software I would/could use today, also system is WAAAAAAAY outdated.

Investing time and money to "develop" super outdated PPC motherboards that can run AmigaOS4.1 is IMO waste of money and there is NOTHING "special and Amiga like" in this new motherboards.

At this point of time we need... web browser, office package (must be compatible with MS Office). THEN we can start actually working on AmigaOS and even replace it in case of SOME of us, that don't need specific software.


At this point we need system and software that in some way will introduce something NEW and interesting to "market". If not my super old A1200 will be fine...

Considering that today people are sick and tired of MS collecting data from their keyboards... Linux "sucks" etc. and MacOS is good for "...". AmigaOS could be viable option.

Focus on development of AmigaOS and software, what hardware it will run? It will be a problem of future.
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Offline kreciu

Re: Phase 5 Digital Products comeback?
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2017, 03:29:05 AM »
Quote from: Chucky;834102

sorry.. no will not happen.  and I am still so scared that there are people sending in money like 1000eur in prepayments and then end up in nothing.

I'm not worry. If they sent THAT kind of money as pre-order - without even seeing working prototype(?) that is purely their choice.

BTW. I just designed time machine. I'm taking pre-orders. Only $1000 for personal use. I will post few pictures on Facebook...soon. ;-)
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