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Offline kreciu

Re: Why I want an A-Eon X5000
« on: July 24, 2016, 07:48:44 PM »
Instead of spending thousands of dollars on motherboards, I think it would be more reasonable to pay software developers to make any useful software that can actually be used under AmigaOS4.1.

I can run today AmigaOS4.1 (thank you Amiga Forever) on my PC and it is really, really FAST (faster then X5000) for fraction of money. Only one problem is there is not productivity software for it, like Web Browser (to start from), I can't sync my calendar etc. etc. use Skype etc. etc.

Hardware can be developed later, since any PC will do run AmigaOS4.1 at this point VERY well. Sure, there is difference to run it on its own hardware... (but it is purely "mental" difference).

Similar story with AmigaOS, it looks great (comparing old versions), but beside this "who cares" about it?

If there is Amiga COMMUNITY that would be possible: to pay someone to develop this software.

For Cannon Fodder I or Crazy Cars my A1200 will do fine. If someone wants to spend thousands of dollars on X5000, your money. I, personally would spend them differently :).
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Offline kreciu

Re: Why I want an A-Eon X5000
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2016, 09:25:21 PM »
Quote from: eliyahu;811568
no. it's not faster. not even remotely close.

-- eliyahu

OK. Fine, it is slower (I don't care). It doesn't make much of a difference, since there is nothing to run on it. I got it, looked at it and looks great.

Who cares this X5000 will be 1000x faster then emulation:  "ZERO software x 1000 = ZERO".

There is millions of computers that can run AmigaOS4.1 at this point. Now, how on earth to convince anybody to invest in this OS?
« Last Edit: July 24, 2016, 09:29:23 PM by kreciu »
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Offline kreciu

Re: Why I want an A-Eon X5000
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2016, 01:07:29 AM »
Quote from: Iggy;811571
So you've made up our minds for us, eh?
Hey, I don't even care about the OS4.1 part, and I still want one.

I just don't see how purchase of X5000 type of computers will make AmigaOS have more software and people interested in this system/software. Especially when fully legal emulation of AmigaOS4.1 is possible on hundreds of millions of computers world wide.

I hope AmigaOS4.1 was sold in millions of copies...so people can run AmigaOS under emulation. I look at this problem from more "practical perspective", for a hobby my 20+ years old A1200 is fun and quite unique...

"Our minds" I say to YOU: ENJOY your X5000, really.

BTW. I would, possibly, maybe, kind of, sort of, remotely purchase "Sam440" type of motherboard for about $400. I could do it... kind of. You can believe or not I actually got brand new ITX case when Sam440 was "available" with intention to build "new Amiga". Now, I'm putting my NAS storage there... Raw speed of X5000 will not make it more fun computer, SOFTWARE and operating system will, and pushing $2500 hardware is in my opinion mistake. It will not create any large user environment.

OK. If this is off topic. I'm done, bye.
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Offline kreciu

Re: Why I want an A-Eon X5000
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2016, 12:15:33 PM »
Quote from: amigakit;811567
@kreciu



I have to respectively disagree here.  I have used AmigaOS 4.1 on WinUAE running on a brand new top spec AMD laptop and it is substantially slower and more limited than my AmigaOne X5000.  OS4.1 on WinUAE/Amiga Forever does not have any compositing support, limited memory, access to high spec 3D hardware such as RadeonHD, it is not compatible with Warp3D Nova.  

This is all true, but support of mentioned technologies will not make OWB more compatible with any website or self write "excel, word etc. type of software), since this has nothing to do with lack of support of UAE emulation of AmigaOS. IT COULD run it IF(when) UAE will support it.


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In essence, OS4.1 under emulation only serves as a basic demo of 4.1 and not a true reflection of how it operates natively on high spec hardware such as the X5000.  The problem with using OS4.1 in Amiga Forever/WinUAE is that it certainly does not give users the true experience of running the operating system as it was intended.

I got it, installed it... and after about 1 hour I noticed that I don't need to spend hours to make it look beautiful (it is already there). I tried to go to internet... ups...

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As regards software development, the AmigaDeveloper.com Team have been working on new software for the last year and already made the Enhancer Software release with a lot more updates to come.

... and THIS IS way to do it. BTW. I was SOOOOOO happy to go to Amiga Store and PURCHASE Amiga software from them (just to benchmark my emulated Amiga), unfortunately after that... I went back to my 030/50Mhz, simply more fun.

I know, we all run in a circle... or trying to catch our tail or chicken or egg...I say we have hardware, sure it is crippled in many ways but it can run software, if available.
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Offline kreciu

Re: Why I want an A-Eon X5000
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2016, 12:57:13 PM »
Quote from: ferrellsl;811641
Since when has OpenGLES 2.0 been released/available for OS4?  Oh, that's right.....it hasn't been made available.  I understand that AmigaKit is in the business of making money from Amiga users, but for those who have been away from the Amiga scene for a while who are maybe looking to get back into Amiga ownership, AmigaKit's statement is misleading at best.  It's all smoke, mirrors, and cheap talk until something is really released, if it's released.


... and people will play... Quake?
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