Can you imagine? A1200 Reloaded + Mediator + Vampire +...

[kreciu]

I like to dream (a lot!) and I had this dream. It looks like this: Amiga 1200 Reborn (Individual Computers) + Vampire1200 (http://www.majsta.com/) + new Amiga1200 cases (http://www.a1200.net/).

...or Amiga 1200 Reborn (mATX version) + Mediator (Elbox) + Vampire 1200 + new A1200 mATX desktop...

Is this possible?

Then you just buy it... NEW. I think this would still be cheaper then AmigaPPC NG?

[kreciu]

Don't forget the sonnet crescendo 7200 in the Mediator

You are right... and NEW PPC board, but I think this will never happend, to be able to by NEW Amiga + new "expansion" boards.

I wish that design of A1200 Reloaded would include ZorroII. In some way I hope we could have this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIVz4cmPoxQ but A1200 "guts".



I think I just woke up... but it would be nice and in some way it is "almost there", "tommorow", "next year", "5th quarter of the year".

[kreciu]

Bet your right, lol!

...but totally serious, appearance of this kind of project shows one thing: You can solder you "new" Amiga "at home", kind off.

I truly believe there is many of skilled Amiga users who could do this, I can only buy it and complain about lack of it .

BTW. This could very nice DIY package for sale. PCB + all components (some could be soldered, so it is easier) to make new mobo based on A1200 "architecture", later you get DIY graphic card, even later DIY sound card.

I'm quite sure there is PLENTY of people who are dreaming about soldering their own computer they actually can use, it is VERY original. Look at Raspberry... Amiga would be "better" since you could make it completely from scratch. I think I'm dreaming again.

Ideas are CHEAP, it is more difficult to make them happen .

[kreciu]

Slightly off topic, but I need to vent.
I don't understand why the boards aren't being built in an ATX or mATX form factor, and have the native ability for for a PS2/USB Keyboard and mouse.  Add a mATX slim case and you have the modern equivalent to the Amiga 1000 form factor.

This is EXACTLY on topic.

Same thinking here. I really would enjoy mATX A1200 mobo (it could most likely fit original desktop case).

I understand that some people want to see "old case" for A1200, and think: "I have A1200 that runs Quake II". Whatever. A1200 will NEVER run Quake II because it is peace of crap (sorry!) by itself. Sure, if you add crapload of turbo cards, expansion it will...but it is hard to call this sandwich A1200.

#2 Not requiring an original A500 keyboard would be a HUGE bonus.  This requirement is short sighted and befuddling.  

I also don't understand this idea.

[kreciu]

I'd like some new FPGA hardware with PCI slots.

... that will be useless without drivers .

I have to say that total randomness of various hardware efforts is killing Amiga. If people would actually concentrate they effort on ONE project and make it viable that would benefit people MUCH more then 6(?) versions of AmigaOS4.1 for each motherboard.

We need unification of projects, ideas... but as usual I'm dreaming.

[kreciu]

With the current direction of the FPGA, its just a massive speedboost of the classic line, not a diversion into a new branch. Id call it a revitalization. Some will stay with the original 680x0 chips, but both versions will retain WB 3.x.

Im sure Ill try the performance hungry version of AROS for eye candy too. One SD for WB and one for AROS?

I don't mind some "fresh air" in Amiga world. FPGA will give some new life and more usability to old hardware.

In general A1200+FPGA accelerator with some sort of GPU acceleration that will allow watching WB in high resolutions and millions of colors would be AMAZING. It would be nice to have some Wifi (is this possible?) on it and basically at this point A1200 "desktop" become quite useful "retro" computer.

[kreciu]

I see that some of you can know this:

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=70431

I need to find replacement parts...

[kreciu]

...Desktop PCs are dying out, they fallen out of popularity with the growth in laptop and handheld devices...

?

Desktops are dying? Where did you made this observation?

Sure, people are saying that desktops PC are dying but it is loooooooooongest death possible (like 20 years...).

Many people don't need any more "towers" under (on top of it or on the side) their desks, since there is plenty of "iMac" like solutions, super small PC, PC on the stick (if you are from MN you know what I mean ) etc. etc. and this kind of "boring PC" will die (or is dead today).

Today (and few years back) there is "new" trend in desktop PC's: computer CASE mods etc. Desktop PC is not only for power, but also for DIY mods, make it beautiful etc. thing... one reason why I use... Amiga (for sure not for it's best operating system ever made...or amazing software)

Don't tell me this is going to dye soon. There will be steady desire to make case mods, it is like car mods. It is only for few, but there is enough of this few to make it stable income for companies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyjWXAY1n2M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBy9Mdo_2EA

BTW. Who on earth needs faster computers anymore? This is reason why desktops are dying. You can use 9 year old Core 2 Duo PC at home and it works GREAT! My CPU that is not that new anymore is like a hot knife in a butter on a hot day... even my old 680 GTX will do for next few years. If I want power to crunch some number, I go to my work server and get CPU time...

[kreciu]

Send me the parts..I would love to do that type of project...so count me in on building Amigas at home.

Rich

It will never happen , but that would be definitely amazing to "build" your own computer.

People got rights for 3.1 ROM, AmigaOS 3.1 etc. basically someone would need to produce few hundreds of GBA1000 mobos, sell them with all components + 3.1 ROM and AmigaOS3.1 floppies.

I think this could be even sold OUTSIDE of Amiga world. I really think there is plenty of people who would love to solder this kind of stuff.

BTW. This kind of project could result in divorce... I hope not!

[kreciu]

I think many of us simply would like to have Amiga that can be USED like regular computer (WOW!). Comfortably.

What does it mean?

- browse internet
- write letter (or two)
- make few figures and tables
- make a presentation
- make a budget
- browse my pictures
- listen to music
- check email
- print from my wifi printer
- play Canon Fodder

Seriously, 99% of us do not need anything special (Amiga itself would be quite special... and that is one reason I'm using it).

Considering that Amiga users survived so long time I would assume there is quite large "customer base" to support development of NEW hardware/software.

Only problem I see is luck of coordination among people engaged in development of Amiga hardware and software. There are people who are more then capable to do "stuff"... it seems their efforts are kind off random as a whole, not as particular projects - here FULL respect to those who develop hardware - I would not be using Amiga without you... people! ). Please don't stop...

I think that current development of A1200 new case show how much people are interested in this kind of projects and in general "retro" Amiga's. Now, we need fast (and USEFUL) guts for this case.

Amiga can SURVIVE only as a some kind of DIY computer + system. Regular people have completely no interest in AmigaOS and Amiga never will be an Apple kind of alternative to people who want to be "different".

Question: How to make it happen?

[kreciu]

@kreciu

Apollo/Vampire crew has gone about it in a smart way.

I know, those people are AMAZING, to take a lead in their projects. What I'm trying to say we need some kind of "Steve or Bill" in Amiga World. We need a face of a "leader" and at this point there is nobody like that. Sorry!

One of the things that annoys me is every program seems to be missing xyz library or third party program.

Same here, I just come back after hibernation to Amiga and... trying to install ANYTHING is as your wrote. My personal favorite is: Folder will NOT be created or "Where should I install xcvcvd.xsf file" (and I have not IDEA what this file/program is for!). It is like I need to read manual to install software (stinks like a Linux ). BTW. No, idea of using software is not about "go figure" how to install it.

I was happy to see, that AmigaStore is kind of curating software and installation process...