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Re: Philosophical Question - Amiguing
« on: July 18, 2013, 02:46:14 PM »
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Um no, let's not put it that way.


Well amiga is girlfriend in Spanish...
 

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Re: Philosophical Question - Amiguing
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2013, 02:55:55 PM »
Recently I read one of Richard Feinmann's books.

In it he devotes a chapter on a topic that I could relate to and he says, was not uncommon during his teaching years: the situation when a student with religious up bringing ends up studying science.  That student, he says, goes through a period of unease, a struggle, as his studies conflict with many of the basic tenets of his religion.

The resolution of this conflict doesn't necessarily mean abandoning science or his religion, and many scientists maintain their religious beliefs.  How scientists reconcile this is often up to the person himself.

It seemed to me that my religion-along with most popular religions- seem to have two main aims. One is to explain the world we find ourselves in.

I was brought up as a Christian, but later went on to do a MSc.  During that time I was exposed to pretty much every branch of science there was: from calculus to relativistic mechanics and quantum theory to the life sciences to anthropology to electrical engineering and materials science.  

I came to the conclusion that science does a better job of explaining the world around us then any religion that I've come across.

The other thing religions seem to do is to provide a set of rules on how one should live their life, a moral code or set of values, complete with rewards for those that do, and punishment for those that don't, including the biggies of eternal life or eternal damnation.  I can see how this in ancient times would have been important in terms of protecting the community and maintaining social order: after all what bigger reward is their than eternal life, and what worse punishment is their than eternal damnation-  Eternity is a long time!

The important things in life-love, family, health, mutual respect however in my mind haven't changed all that much over the eons.  I'm yet to be convinced that modern takes on what is a "good and moral life" are any better than the majority of what's in the Bible. I don't believe I'll get to heaven or hell one way or the other, but the Bible's life-rules make pretty good sense to me.  

So that was my resolution of my "conflict". I still regard myself as a "small c" Christian.
 

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Re: Philosophical Question - Amiguing
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2013, 03:13:09 PM »
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Oh does it I'm glad you know everything.

So do tell me, where does my imagination get it from?


There are scientific possibilities for how the brain "imagines".

In a sense everything we perceive is a form of "imagination".

What we see as "reality" is only a mental construct of the real world: "color" for example only exists in our mind, perspective is an illusion-things aren't really smaller as they get further away.

One of our abilities is to predict mental scenarios based on prior experiences. We can recreate "what ifs" in our minds. The prediction may never have actually been observed by the person before, or indeed may actually be physically impossible but using previous observations and experiences a new scene or vision can be created within the brain.  

How does all this happen at the biochemical level-God knows.

No actually there's no need to invoke God, yet.

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Re: Philosophical Question - Amiguing
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2013, 02:57:20 PM »
The soul is simply the vehicle for immortality invented by humans to explain how people could live forever when it became obvious that dead bodies decay and can never be revived-: the body dies, but the "soul" can live forever, therefore immortality is possible.

Why is "immortality" so important to humans?  At its heart, its because humans don't want to let go of loved ones that pass away ie we'll all meet up again because we have "souls" that live forever.

Me- I try to  make the most of the time with the people that matter to me in this existence.
 

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Re: Philosophical Question - Amiguing
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2013, 01:17:55 AM »
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Or perhaps because of the realization that there may be more than just the physical universe.


I can't disprove that there may be more than just the physical universe.  

Or even if there is another or perhaps many more physical universes, no matter what Brian Greene thinks about it!

And believing that there is an afterlife probably helps people copes with the finality of death-by not dealing with the finality of death.

The downside is that we may end up not full appreciating *this* existence, the here and now, in the belief that there is an afterlife...which might not be there.