Windows is buggy and slow lets buy a Mac

[stefcep2]

Who shuts down their computer anymore anyway?  Between sleep/suspend and hibernation, my systems rarely get an actual reboot.  Did Apple ever get hibernation going in OSX?  I only remember seeing them use sleep mode.



I have Postal or Postal 2 around here somewhere for MacOS..

I would say most people shut down, rather than sleep/hibernate.  Especially laptops, which are prone to heating up in a bag if they are left asleep, and which take just about as long to get out of hibernate as they do to boot anyway and the way sales are going these days will outnumber-if they haven't already-desktop users.  

There's a lot of effort being put into making Windows and Linux boot ever faster and that's because users demand it.

Don't under-estimate the value of a fast booting OS is to the average user.  It matters,  Microsoft knows this and Ubuntu's targetting a 7 second boot time this year apparantly.  They wouldn't be devoting resources if it didn't matter to the average user.

[stefcep2]

As succinctly as I possibly can, when it comes to general purpose "computing" (word processing, photo editing, e-mail, database storage, internet), I want the system, hardware and OS to get the f@ck out of my way. I just want it to work and work well. Like my automobiles. You should just turn them on and go. This is why I prefer Mac's.

Ubuntu is pretty much like that for those uses out of the box these days, and runs on much cheaper hardware.  And the software is free, and meets those needs adequately for me.  Sure its not as polished as OS X.  Its hardware support has improved a lot, I was surprised that with a brand new laptop everything except for sound worked.  To fix that i just had to add a single line to my xorg.conf file and I found that in few minutes on the forums.  That was 12 months ago, the latest Ubuntu works 100% on the same laptop.  And this was why I got a PC: because i can do what I'd do on a  Mac for much less $$, and for the stuff that Mac doesn't do well-games, emulators and media centre functionality-  I use linux or windows.

[stefcep2]

What kind of crap laptops have you been using?  I've got no less than 7 or 8 here, and they all use about as close to no power as you could hope (and make no heat) in sleep mode, and coming out of hibernation takes far less time than an actual bootup (not to mention the battery savings,) especially on older systems.

Fast bootup is nice, sure, but OSes and systems are stable enough to suspend/hibernate, and people do take advantage of it.  I routinely hibernate my dual-boot netbook and switch from Linux to a hibernated Windows session and vice versa.

Its a 12 month HP DV4.  It heats up if left in a bag in sleep/hibernate.  No-one I know at the large corporation I work in leaves their company laptop in sleep mode when on the road, and the company advised everyone not to do it.  And i've timed waking up from hibernate: the difference is maybe a few seconds.

Like I said, Microsoft made a point of improving Win 7's boot time over Vista, and the ubuntu devs are focusing on it too, simply because it improves the computing experience of many users.  It matters.