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[stefcep2]

Your web browsing experience on your Amiga does depend on your hardware and your web browser.  i used to use ibrowse 2.4 on an A4000 68060 cv64 1024x 768 16 bit screen with a high speed zorro serial port.  I did not have a site i couldn't use that involved getting text, picture and gifs, filling in forms, passwords, even banking .  in fact not having a flash plug-in made my experience faster and free from all the advertising drivel.  And my bandwith use was about 30% of the PC viewing the same pages due to no flash and using web caching. email retrieval and sending is faster on Amiga than on PC.  i think i would happy if amiga had css support, but i couldn't give a stuff about flash or real player video's, just a waste of bandwidth and a colossal waste of technology

[stefcep2]

Jiffy wrote:

stefcep2 wrote:
Your web browsing experience on your Amiga does depend on your hardware and your web browser.  

Ehrm... Is this serious? We're talking about computers here... Ofcóurse it is depending on your hardware and your web browser! What else would it depend on? The temperature of my cup of coffee?

As opposed to running a 14 mhz 020 2 meg ram AGA-only internal serial port Amiga with Ibrowse 1, or any lesser hardware or software than my set up.  my A4000 was good enough until about 18 months ago

i used to use ibrowse 2.4 on an A4000 68060 cv64 1024x 768 16 bit screen with a high speed zorro serial port.  I did not have a site i couldn't use that involved getting text, picture and gifs, filling in forms, passwords, even banking .
I find that highly unlikely. No site you couldn't use? There are huge amounts of sites that require the support of CSS to be able to use them. No CSS-support is no functioning website on your screen, period. And a serial port, albeit fast? What year are we talking about? Five, ten years ago? Websites were different then.

18 months ago.  The layout may have been wrong: usually i had very long web pages, but the info that i needed was was still there. Maybe i don't browse the sites you do, but i didn't have a problem.

My Amigas have been connected to my router through either a PCMCIA-nic (3Com509) or a XSurf card for years now, so bandwidth is no issue. Most sites expect you to have a broadband connection and I can't blame them. Websites today are different compared to websites 10 years ago. They are larger and more complex.

Dial up was not a limiting factor for me, but then again I don't care for youtube, I don't download porn movies, and I hate flash rubbish.  Hell I only got broadband for my PC 2 months ago

I am not asking something extreme. I have several decent Amiga setups, capable of outperforming a comparable 486 and P133 on many tasks with relative ease, except(!) when it comes to webbrowsing. Amiga browsers suck when comparing them to IE6, both when it comes to speed and even more so when it comes to displaying sites without to many errors.

Browsing with an Amiga is not funny: it's always a question if a site I want to visit will function or not. On the 15 year old 486, I do not have that problem... It's not the hardware: the Amigas I have (much) more powerful compared to the 486. Ergo, it's the software holding my Amigas back.

why don't you try ibrowse 2.4 on winuae?  sure its not running native 68x0 code but its about as fast in hardware as you're gonna get.  this also removes the tcp stack issue (maybe the amiga stacks are slowing things down as well).  this may help sort out the issue of whether its the hardware or ibrowse/aweb.  javascript is now a big slow down for amiga

[stefcep2]

I actually took my advice and used IBrowse in Winuae.  It is slower at rendering pages, mostly due to lengthy javascipt (which you can shorten), but also due to the way in which images(mainly gifs and jpegs) are downloaded and then decoded.  However the cache is a real time saver when moving back and forth between pages.  Amiga.org is rendered just the same as in firefox, ebay works, but pages are not dispalyed the same, banking works fine but again pages are not displayed the same, some commercial tv sites are not rendered right but work and i can do all the things on those sites, such as log into forums,buy things etc.  I think your set up eg ssl must be preventing you from using many sites. But yes it is slower