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Adding >4G support to OS3.1
« on: February 22, 2008, 01:20:04 AM »
I want to install OS 3.1 on an A1200 with a 20g hard drive.  Is there a step-by-step guide on how to do this?  I have no CDROM connected to the A1200
 

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Re: Adding >4G support to OS3.1
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2008, 02:52:23 AM »
Yep thats OK I specifically do not want OS3.5 or 3.9 as i want a truly classic amiga and that to me means MagicWB, Magic menu, 8-colour speed, no doulble reset on boot and software that runs on AGA and video modes.  The A1200 has an Apollo 68040@40 MHz with 32 Meg fast ram.  What is NSDPatch? Where do I get it? How do i set it up?
 

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Re: Adding >4G support to OS3.1
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2008, 05:02:54 AM »
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Yuck....a lot to answer.... what do you define as 'classic Amiga' ? Allow me a little venting here, if you feel that OS3.5 and above are not 'classic', than how is a 20GB hard drive 'classic' ?:)

 


The 20 GB hard drive is the smallest 2.5" drive I can get for $5.  A 4 GB would be more than enough but I can't find any.

What is the Classic Amiga? Interesting question, could be a thread on its own really.   For me, Classic Amiga has always been about look and feel NOT whether its 68k or PPC or x86 via emulation.  Anyway for me the Amiga classic look and feel is OS3.1 with MagicWB, MagicMenu MUI and a dockbar running.  Its fast on standard Amiga graphics chipsets, it boots fast, its clean, its uncluttered.  The icons are simple enough to let you immediately recognize what they represent, rather than being just place on the screen to click and requiring you to look at the icon name underneath: this is a vital point that seems to have been forgotten in the design of UI's.  Also I intend to use DPAINT, Brilliance and Scala mainly, all AGA software running on a 1084 but maybe NEC 3D if i get it repaired.  I just love the speed, simplicty and elegance of such software-the limit is my talent not the hardware or software.  Its interesting I think even in the PC world people are starting to appreciate simplicity: have you seen the eePCe or whatever they're calling it from asus with its cut-down Linux, built in Office suite, Internet suite  all accessible form a a custom simplified UI?

BTW I have OS3.9 on a A4000 68060 with CV64 graphics card.  It takes longer to boot than my A1200 and the glowicons take longer to draw on screen.  The additional colours and icon artwork just add to the clutter of the user-interface.  Its interesting: I have installed ClassicWB in all of its variations, Amigasys, and the big daddy Amikit: distracting 24-bit backdrops, start menus, task bars, png icons, bit-mapped window borders, complex animated file requesters is NOT what a classic Amiga means to me because whilst a screen-grab might look pretty, the essence of what the GUI is meant to be (a simple, fast responsive way to issue commands to the computer) is lost.  Just my two cents worth..

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Second, you know about keeping your workbench partition below the 2GB area, right? Also, once you have a working hard drive greater than 4GB, you can no longer use most 'disk-salvage' or 'disk-optimizer' programs...

If needed I can post the SS from my old boot floppy, you can then modify it for your HD if needed........
 


That would be much appreciated
 

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Re: Adding >4G support to OS3.1
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2008, 12:12:55 AM »
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 This setup will make the standard glow icons in AmigaOS3.9 in 16 bit (~65k colors) *MUCH* faster than your AGA in 8 colors with FastFileSystem. There is no wait as the windows and icons appear with the biggest difference being SFS (and no CPU hungry IDE).

 


I agree glowicons is fast on a system with RTG.  BUT IMHO its not worth putting it on a native display system.  PNG icons slow down ANY 68k system, RTG or not.  Has anyone installed OS3.9 using a MagicWB icon system?

I'll give sfs a go
 

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Re: Adding >4G support to OS3.1
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2008, 12:33:55 AM »
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My Amiga is more responsive and doesn't slow down at times and over time like the 3GHz P4 XP machines I am forced to use all the time. T
 


Just as an aside, i found that by using Advanced uninstaller pro for XP to remove "debris" and clean up registry, and defragmenting monthly (when you do this repeat a couple of times even though windows says the defragementing is complete and the drive doesn't need to be defragmented).  It made a huge speed improvement to me.
 

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Re: Adding >4G support to OS3.1
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2008, 05:52:21 AM »
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I think all that is needed to get MagicWB icons to display correctly under AmigaOS 3.9 is to select "Set MagicWB Colors" in SYS:Prefs/Workbench. TweakWB has a very easy to use drag and drop MagicWB and newicon icon converter too.

Ok let me get this straight: "set magicwb colors" will use the magicwb colors palette but the icons will still be glowicons.  If I was to install magicwb over the top would the glowicons be replace by magicwb ones?  And for those glowicons that the magicwb 2.1p install archive doesnt have an icon for, i can just drag and drop magicwb icons from other sources to replace them?