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Offline arnljotTopic starter

Bought pirated game on eBay, what to do?
« on: February 04, 2008, 02:59:35 PM »
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350015894741

This turned out to be a pirated copy.

Had I looked at the bottom, after all the terms and conditions for shipping. I'd perhaps smelled the rat.

What should I do, start procedures with PayPal, or just leave negative feedback. Or just let it go?

I'm most tempted to do the last thing...
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Offline arnljotTopic starter

Re: Bought pirated game on eBay, what to do?
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2008, 03:07:40 PM »
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All images thoughout our sites are for illustration only and may differ from that shown. i.e dvd covers / games.E&OE


Also, there is a picture at the very bottom of the cover and disk I received. I thought it waw their logo...

I've reported it as a counterfeigt and copyright voilation now.
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Offline arnljotTopic starter

Re: Bought pirated game on eBay, what to do?
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2008, 04:02:46 PM »
I've reported them like I said. And the CDR I've received has a "home printed label". The label is the kind where the cd it self can be printed on (rough white background).

The colour of he disc is all wrong (lots of rainbow), and the inner circle of the CD says "CD-R" and then a batch number.

Also the label is all wrong. it says "SIMON THE SORCERER" in a wierd font, and has a dead url underneath "amiga-ames.com.au", and the word "Amiga" and a soft faidng curved rainbow in the "lower left".

It's fake, it's pirated, it's bootleg.

I already have the pirate version from 97 when I was young and wreckless. I want the original! I want to collect!
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Offline arnljotTopic starter

Re: Bought pirated game on eBay, what to do?
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2008, 10:36:14 AM »
The seller (from the paypal receipt) is Gerald Longman.

And from the butterfly media direct page:
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[b]Do you also sell your products on ebay or other auction-sites yourself?[/b]

We only sell our products through our members at our trade prices, Guaranteed! Unlike other Dropshippers or Wholesalers, we never list any of our items on ebay at discount prices. Guaranteed!.


Also from the swindon trading standards site:
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If you are a consumer and need consumer advice please contact Consumer Direct SouthWest on  08454 040506


So from reading their site, it seems that I'll only be forwarded to someone not caring about piracy or foreign consumers.

About dropshit, erhm ship: So Butter fly media stocks the items, and the sellers are really just agents for the dropshipper?

It seems like a bogus way to place distance between the seller and the shipper.
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Offline arnljotTopic starter

Re: Amazing
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2008, 02:12:39 PM »
1) I have reported the item as a pirate copy to eBay
=> They don't seem to care

2) I have asked the seller to refund me because it's a pirated copy:
==> part of his answer:
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HI
 
This, as with all our Amiga titles is a licensed copy that are sold on CD-R as stated in the item description.
 
Thanks
Shaz


3) I have replied to him asking for proof that they hold such a license.

4) I have contacted adventure soft and made them aware of the ads for their pirated material

5) The seller has already given me positive feedback since I payed him really fast

So, I can still open a dispute with ebay and give him negative feedback.
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Offline arnljotTopic starter

Re: Bought pirated game on eBay, what to do?
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2009, 10:43:09 PM »
This is an old thread that got revived as I linked to it to a new thread show an example of the scammer currently operating out of ebay.co.uk.

I did not receive neg from this seller as I reported him to ebay.

In his response he wrote to me that he had lisence to make copies of the game. Fortunately I was able to track down the current lisence holders of the game and ask them if this was correct.

Of course they refuted this, and I forwared the information to the seller and to ebay.

He was then very quick to send me an original of the game and settle everything amicably.

Look at the enclosed file for an example image which is always accompanied with his listings.

Also, this text disclaimer is noted in the listing:
Quote from: Scammer

Images are for Illustration and may differ from that shown. All items are dispatched from UK within 48 hours, Guaranteed!  All Trademarks Acknowledged. You will receive an AMIGA CD-R ROM in a generic casing similar to that shown.


The scammer is obviously gambling on that this disclaimer should make most user complaints void when they realise they've been had.

Because he will then claim he has license to reproduce the software on AMIGA CD-R ROM. But unfortunately for him, Simon The Sorcerer license holders are very easy to track down. And they were also very gratefull to be notified of this individuals actions.
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