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[matthey]

By the way, what makes everyone think that an ISA shift will cure our problems?
Our problems aren't really hardware related.

You should all remember this.
Its lack of software.
And no, old Amiga apps don't count.

An ISA switch may help the Amiga "hardware" problem but it makes the "software" problem worse. Even developers which want to support the Amiga after looking at the small market will wonder how they will develop for all of the following.

AmigaOS 3.x 68k (includes UAE, FPGA Arcade, Mist, etc.)
AmigaOS 4.x PPC
MorphOS PPC
MorphOS x86
AROS 68k
AROS x86
AROS ARM

There is no single compiler install which can target all of these platforms and testing would be ridiculous. The amount of pre-processor conditionals for all the different APIs, ISAs and ABIs is already out of control when trying to support them all with a single source. We need standards and consolidation for the Amiga not more dilution and fragmentation.

[matthey]

A-Eon don't own Hyperion.

Are you sure? What percentage of Hyperion does A-Eon own after the bailout?

[matthey]

Missed that, or is that really what happened when Hyperion were pretending they had not been made bankrupt and it was all an admin error ?

I don't "know" but I doubt A-Eon would bail Hyperion out of bankruptcy for rights to a few software products. Would you loan a bankrupt Hyperion $100,000+ for the rights to sell some of their old software products?

[matthey]

100k is a lot of money but enough to buy the company?

$100k is not much when talking about bringing back a bankrupt business which included paying off debts and injecting enough cash for sustainable operation. How much is a bankrupt technology company with outdated technology worth?

would you let design and build a ppc based hardware platform just to run os4 for multiple 100k of $? im not so sure..

I would not invest in PPC at this time for several reasons.

o PPC is dying (the selection of PPC CPUs is falling while the cost is rising).
o The potential target market is reduced too much by the high cost of PPC hardware.
o The AmigaOS technology and legal status are big questions.

I would not drop PPC support but rather try to diversify away from PPC. The Amiga is not competitive in the high priced workstation market. The PPC is not a good value for this market and the AmigaOS does not have the security for business applications and servers. High cost PPC Amigas miss the biggest potential of the Amiga market and I believe the economics are unsustainable.

[matthey]

Where did you read about that?  I haven't heard anything about anyone giving Hyperion any money whatsoever.

Did you hear about Hyperion's bankruptcy undone? Did you hear that A-Eon is now selling products which Hyperion owned? Do you think A-Eon is a charity for Hyperion donations?

[matthey]

PPC is going no where.  At least not at an enterprise level.  Power 8 getting used a lot in the insurance sector.

If Apple had stuck with PPC then maybe they could have made a high end Power 8 computer for the elite user. Power 8 wouldn't do AmigaOS 4.x much good without SMP, 64 bit addressing and software (Power 7 would give a faster Amiga than Power 8 due to lack of SMP). Of course, if Apple had stayed with PPC then there would be cheaper and faster PPC hardware today and the Amiga on PPC wouldn't be a sinking ship.

I'm guessing that $2000 for a base system price will be a suite spot and many will jump on it.

I see 1415 pounds (excluding VAT) = $2154 U.S. = 1913 Euros (but most Euro users have to pay VAT which becomes 2297 Euros).

Source:

https://www.facebook.com/AEonTechnologyLtd/photos/a.461608890516168.110788.447768335233557/1082048695138848/?type=3