WinUAE exposing how crappy Windows is

[Arkhan]

Well, Windows really encourages such sloppyness. A simple Amiga programm doesn´t need an install process at all. Most of the time all installers-scripts really do is to make an assign. Windows is a cluttered os where nothing seems to have its proper place. Its hard to manage and most people end up just ignoring all the crap.

Windows encourages third party software companies to make sloppy nonsense?  Thats news.

It's not hard to manage either.  One day that myth might finally go away.

Also, a "simple" Amiga program defeats the purpose of argument here.  Not to mention, getting things to work on Amiga isn't always a walk in the park.

[Arkhan]

holy christ.  The fliddery is in full force in this thread.

Totem is its default media player. Ergo its the most widely used Linux media player out of the box. Ditto lack of mp3 and DVD playback in Ubuntu. Its what most Linux users would confront out of the box.

Most linux users immediately want to watch movies and listen to MP3s?

INTERESTING!

I thought most linux users immediately wanted to do something useful.

Also, piss on Ubuntu.  Redhat/Fedora smokes that brown pile of MacOSXknockoff.  

all of this lol@windowsregistry, and referencing basic CS concepts to argue the point, is stupid.   Comparing it to how "streamlined" and "easy to use" an old ass OS is, is also stupid.  Amiga OS is a pain in the ass alot of times.

The only thing wrong with the windows registry is people who think they know what they're doing going in and touching stuff.  If a database of crap like that slows your computer down, then your computer is a piece of shit.  get a new one.

I've had a single core XP box running 24/7 (unless theres a power outtage) for the past like, 8 years.

It boots up just about half as fast as the new windows 7 box I have.   Is this bad?  No!  The Win7 box has a way better processor, more ram, and a faster HDD.  It had better boot faster.

They both still boot perfectly fast and the XP machine has never needed restored.  It's full of programs and installed crap too.  That registry is perty damn big, and it hasn't jacked my performance.

so all of the M$ Haters can go walk into traffic.  

Show me the following for another OS in a situation where the programs will all run without having to dick around for hours until it works, and maybe then the whole "OMG M$ SUx0r" thing will have some validity.

There are no great, functional, nice to use alternatives to alot of the stuff I do with Windows.  Trying to find and use "better alternatives" turned out to be more work.   Less bang for my buck!

forget that crap.

[Arkhan]

Would this be the same fedonka that utterly failed to even boot past decompressing the kernel on my PC, upon which Ubuntu and debian work just fine?

no that must be a different one.  The one I use installs fine. lol

[Arkhan]

1. Windows Genuine Advantage
This Win7/Vista feature is designed to combat piracy, but instead it wages war against common sense. If WGA believes that you aren't running a legitimate copy of Windows, it takes a variety of actions against you. In earlier iterations, it could in essence shut off your access to the operating system.

Their help desk is open 24 hours.  If something happens, you call them, its fixed.  The end.   That or you just enter your product key in a box and you're good to go.  You can't blame a company for protecting their software.  That's dense.

2. The Registry
The Registry is a giant, incomprehensible database of Windows settings, preferences, behaviours, and more. When you use a dialog box to make a change to how Windows works, generally it's making a change to the Registry --- often dialog boxes are mere front ends to the Registry. But to make many changes, you need to edit the Registry, and it's a tough, dangerous thing to do. Other operating systems, including Mac OS X and Linux, don't have Registries, and they work fine. It's time for Microsoft to finally kill the Registry.

It's incomprehensible because you aren't really suppose to read it.  It's there.  There is software in place to handle it.  Ignore that it's there.  Stop touching it.  Typing regedit and seeing all that crazy jargon is cool and all, but if you have NFI what you're doing, stay away.

All OS's have something similar to "the registry", and other finnicky little things.  Quit having tunnel vision against the M$ Machine.  OSX has annoying file permissions you have to go repair sometimes, and that periodic daily weekly monthly cleanup nonsense.

Every OS has this shit.  If it didn't, it wouldn't be a very personal computer.  It would forget who you are, what you did, and what you setup every time you reboot the thing.

3. ActiveX Controls
ActiveX controls are essentially applets delivered via Internet Explorer. They don't, however, run in other browsers. And they have the potential to be malicious. Once upon a time they served some use, but no longer. Given the growth of AJAX and Web 2.0 sites, it's clear that sophisticated applications can be delivered via the browser without ActiveX. Microsoft should finally pull the plug on this technology.

Pull the plug and remove all legacy support.  GOOD IDEA.  

Alot of businesses that run on SQLServer and use M$ use IE/ActiveX.  Just because you don't use it when you're dicking off on the internet doesn't mean it's not useful.

4. User Account Control
This is clearly the unanimous choice for a feature that needs to bite the dust. Sure, it offers security...but at far too high an annoyance cost, with pointless pop-ups and ridiculous intrusions. Microsoft needs to kill UAC and start from scratch.

This is for people who don't know what's going on.  You CAN turn it off you know.  It takes all of 10 seconds to deactivate.   You can edit the registry and do Big O notation , but can't find the button to turn off UAC?

euhhhhh

[Arkhan]

Sounds like you agree it is all wasted space and should be gotten rid of.

no I don't.  Can't you read...?  The only wasted space here is that giant block quote you just did that was pointless to leave there.

UAC is great for flids who just smash keys and press buttons aimlessly and jack up their machine out of cluelessness.

WGA is awesome so Microsoft doesn't get severely reemed as far as profits go...sure some people will pirate still, but at least it only lets the really crafty pirating get through.

ActiveX is perfectly fine.  Sorry it doesn't conform to the LOLLINUXOPENSAUCE thing.  Doesn't dismiss it as useful.

and the registry, it is good stuff.  I understand most of it upon looking at it.  Then I remember it doesn't really matter, and close the registry editor and get on with my life.  It's kept Windows operating for what like two decades.  Must not be a bad idea.  

plus it lets you hack the resolution of FFXI to make it look smooth as hell.

It just sounds like you opened it, got confused at all of the hexadecimal, and decided you hate it.    It's like busting open a microwave, expecting magical faeries and gnomes cooking your food..., and all you see is technical crap.

[Arkhan]

ARE YOU KEEPIN UP WITH THE HERPADERP? CAUSE THE HERPADERP IS KEEPING UP WITH YOU!
:laughing:

[Arkhan]

Wasting your time?  You choose to post in here.  Besides it's Microsofts fault you have to respond.  They make that craptastic OS not me.

Nothing craptastic about it.  I use it to develop games, play games, make music, and troll teh interwebs, no probrem.

I point out flaws and you guys go.  "Yeah, there are flaws but here's how to work around them."  For every flaw there is a 23 step work around.  See, MS is perfect!

What flaws? You pointed out COMPLAINTS.   Petty, narrow minded complaints no less.

I don't think you guys are idiots I'm sure you know what a piece of crap the registry is.  Only a blind person wouldn't know there are 1 billion google hits for "registry is garbage"

The majority of humanity is stupid.

Yet, what kind of discussion do I get from your guys? Uhh, well, just pretend it isn't there.  Great solution. :huh::crazy:

Pretending it isnt there is perfectly fine.  It wasn't made for extreme user touching.  If you never open/touch the registry in 10 years, you'll be fine.

It's only a problem if you make it one.

To everybody else its "thing doing stuff that I don't need to bother with".  Then they go do their business and walk away.

[Arkhan]

Nope. Not unless you want to fix something.  I guess an expert like you just reinstalls Windows when they have an issue?  Oh, wait, you've never had a problem. Right?

I've been working with Windows since I was 7.  15 years of dealing with windows since pre-1995 and having a great time with it, fixing tons of issues for myself and others.... yeah I guess you could say I'm an expert.  More so now since I get paid to lolwindows.

See, when there are problems, there are utilities and methods that are really easy to do to fix the problem.

Hamfisting the registry is not one of these methods.  Useful methods are usually required to undo registry-rape.

Fixing the "system restore not working" is also easy.  If you spent less time hamfisting the registry, and more time understand how windows operates, you might fair better.

Most of the people with problems in windows are the same people who click YES to everything on the internet and wonder why they have 32 toolbars and can only see 2 lines of a webpage at a time.

Also running root 24/7 in Linux is dumb.  When you flid it up as root, you've flidded it up for good my man.

PS: I haven't done a system restore in like, 3 years.

I did have to image my install and move to new HDD when the other HDD failed, but that doesn't count.

[Arkhan]

You're probably so en-grained in Windows you can't see a different way.  

lol, actually I grew up with Amiga 500, a 286-->386--->beyond, a redhat machine, and even for a time, a mac.

now I use Windows and Linux.  I dont use mac cause that shits too pricey to be worth the lack of use.

I just think your complaints are pretty boring and girly.

every OS is guilty of losing apps if you don't back it all up and something goes horribly wrong.

Especially Linux, if you hamfist as root 24/7

[Arkhan]

Boring and girly?  WTF?

Whaa whaaaa the UAC is hard.
Whaaa the registry is too registery for me
whaaaaaa GENuine advantage is unfair!
WHAAAAAA

ffs, these are complaints that 60 year old n00bs dont even gripe about.

When Windows goes down, so goes everything.

You can't back up "Office" for example on Windows.  There are a few apps that will let you move the folder and it still work, but those are few.

protip: try the repair option.

A typical Windows Tech day is reformat, Reinstall OS, Reinstall all the Apps, re-setup all the apps.

see: protip.

If the OS goes down it should be separate from the Apps.  That will never happen when every single setting for every single program is in the registry.

Oh because Linux , osx, and AmigaOS are totally void of this problem.

Totally.

stop using windows as your scapegoat.

It's really convenient when a friend plugs in his USB thumb drive to quickly grab a file and you have to reconfigure your whole OS.

And now you're just being a moron.

I shove USB nonsense into my PC 24/7 all the time, I swap with friends, we shove em in.  Instant success.

[Arkhan]

I was joking in response to a different post.
People just keep saying, "ignore" the problem!!  

No we don't.  We say there isn't a problem.  You're making it a problem.  You're grasping at straws and bitching about nonsense.  Complaining about the UAC is like complaining about the child-locks on a car.  turn them off and stfu.

What you're doing is the same as popping the hood on a car and going FUCK MAN, THERE IS A MESS OF METAL AND WIRES AND THINGS INSIDE HERE.  WHAT A SHITTY DESIGN.  ITS INCOMPREHENSIBLE.

and then reaching in and messing with it and going

MY CAR DRIVES FUNNY.  THIS CAR MAKER IS STUPID.  

I already have said I use Windows 98% of the time. It is my OS of choice.  I still think it sucks if the OS goes down I have to reinstall every app.

It doesnt have to work like that, you just refuse to learn how to remedy your problem.  try lolRAID, or backups, or you know, not touching the registry maybe.

I love on Amiga that apps are seperate from the OS.

:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:

The "united" registry of crap-dome is a bad design.  The solution people keep saying is stick your head in the sand.  Doesn't make for much conversation does it?

What do you know about OS designs?  Nothing.

We aren't saying stick your head in the sand.

yet again, we are saying.

THIS IS NOT A PROBLEM.  IT IS ONLY A PROBLEM IF YOU'RE CLUELESS AND TAMPER WITH CONFUSING THINGS THAT ARE MEANT TO BE AUTOMAGICALLY HANDLED BY THE OPERATING SYSTEM.

[Arkhan]

How f-ing cool would it be to have it in Windows like it is in Amiga?

I could have all my games and apps installed on a portable HD.  Take it with me and plug it in a friends house and be able to run all "my" apps from "my" drive.  You can do this with Amiga.

You can do this in Windows if you can find portable apps.  Which is what I do for the apps I can find.

alot of games work like this nowadays.  I know WoW does for sure.

why do you want to run apps on your friends computer anyways.  If you're with your friend you probably have better things to do.

especially if it's a girl.

[Arkhan]

 
Too much unnecessary stress.

Typing out your waste of a reply was more work than doing the admin PW thing..

Regardless, the best computer WAS Amiga.

Fixed that for you.

[Arkhan]

There are plenty of apps out there, including big name apps that offer "portable" versions, as Arkhan says, a lot of games are going this way.

the reason for this is mostly because of the patch process most games do now.

You install the base game and have patches over the net.  So they try to make the game install-free.  The base game install is usually just copying files from one thing (CD) to the other (HDD directory).

[Arkhan]

Did you buy all these softwares, or did you lolpirate them.