Windows is buggy and slow lets buy a Mac

[Arkhan]

Hmmm the good ol Mac vs. PC debate! WOO.

My first puter was an A500 bitd.  Eventually it got replaced with Windows 3.1/Win95/Win98 etc.   I've been using windows for about uh... 12 years. (I am Only 21!)

I'm used to it. I've been flailing around with it since 3.1!  During that time I used a friends power mac also.  It was OK, but we were like 10.  It didn't matter.  We just played Oregon Trail, Wolfenstein, and Gahan Wilson's Haunted House.  

I bought a new Intel mac for the first time a few years ago.  It was nice for awhile.  Different GUI, looked and felt sleek...... but eventually I started to get annoyed.  The marvel of a new shiney toy wore off.  Some people get along fine in mac and make full use of all the software and whatnot.  I didn't.  I saw no real point for me to use an overpriced laptop to sit on the internet or use a text editor and GCC.  A 486 thinkpad would have been functionally equivalent!

Mac is OK I guess, but it's no holy grail of OS's..a few of my problems:

• No equivalent to FruityLoops for same price range.
• No equivalent to NeoPaint (I dont like GIMP).  I need PCX support that doesn't suck.
• My PC-Engine assembler has no mac version...
• games..... :(

I am comfortable with Windows since I have been using it for so long.  Sure I have had the occasional hiccup from downloading something stupid... but it has always been extremely painless to fix.   It wasn't the OS's fault either.  It was my own from going to OMG1337warezd0wnl0adz.com and downloading and running an .exe without virus scanning it .

I just recently did the Win7 jump.  I love it.  It runs smooth on both machines, the GUI doesn't have the same annoying things I found in XP (like the volume slider not appearing if you're actually doing a ton of crap), and it seems to play nice with some of the strange hardware I have.

Windows 7 runs all my old games.  Diablo 2 runs on it.  Doom 95, all the good stuff.  And then there is DOSBOX for the even older stuff.  The new games run great too (I built me a gaming PC).  But for any SERIOUS gaming, I use the PS3 anymore.  We're at the point where consoles are trumping PCs.  But it is still nice to have a computer that has the option to.  Mac's gaming options are limited at best.   It may get better since they're Intel now.

The home macs are also not as user-openable and add-to-able.  I like being able to crack the case open and start adding parts and doing all of that when I need to.  Spare parts all over.  Can't do that as simply with the Mac.   But some people don't care about that.  Some people never open their computer. *shrug*.   I like doing all of that stuff though.

My other big complaint, and it's preference really, is OSX's gui.  I grew to hate buttons on the left of windows, the lack of right click, the goony MIGHTY MOUSE, and that annoying Pinwheel of Doom when a program would tweak out.    It's probably because I am used to windows.

In short, Windows is great for some, and Mac is great for some.

and then Windows blows for some, and Mac blows for some.

and if someone thinks they both blow, theres all the free Linux/stuff they can use.

All of the OS's provide the same basic functionality (file access/storage, productivity suites, browsing,chatting), so it boils down to picking which one gives you the nicest tickle in your pants when you use it.

my only real problem is the condescending OMG YOU USE PC? YOURE DUMB, MACS THE BEST. USE IT, WINDOWS IS CRAP, YOU DONT KNOW ANYTHING. nonsense.  It makes the normal mac users look like idiots by association.

[Arkhan]

I love keyboard shortcuts I use them all the time. especially alt tab to switch apps and alt f4 to close.

when guis came out some people thought keyboards were going to all but die for anything other than data entry. ive found that for entering data and working with multiple apps keyboard shortcuts are way faster and easier than reaching for the mouse or even the touchpad.

ive found that it doesnt really matter if a shortcut is intuitive or not. f1 is help alt f4 is close  once you learn them you dont really think about it. what does mess me up occasionally is different apps especially those ported from linux that have completely different ones.

I use notepad++ and fly around with keyboard shortcuts.   I barely even use the mouse in it

Its pretty funny when you are tag team coding with someone who uses mouse-editing.  My friend usually stares at my hands while I'm doing it and goes "I hate you".

I loooove using keyboards to highlight entire lines.  

[Arkhan]

I totally agree. we have people in my computers class in college that all you have to do is say the word mac and they cheer. its kindoff rediculous.

there is a guy on ocremix.org (music created by people who love old video games mostly) who has put out some incredible stuff created on a pentium II system with only 32 megs of ram.

Yeah the mac vs. pc crap is always going on at my school since we have mac labs AND pc labs, right near each other.

What gets me is when you get the person whos never used the OS that they are bashing.   Ignorance makes me :roflmao:

Its a shame when people buy into things, thinking that the amount spent directly reflects the possible productivity.  OCRemix guy proves this is not true.  I know a guy who spent at least 15000$ by now on high end synthesizers and hasn't produced a single thing with them, but acts like a know-it-all. :-/

I use a 30$ midi keyboard, and a bunch of VSTs in fruityloops, and get more done!

[Arkhan]

Once again you confirm that you have no clue what you are talking about.

Im going to have to second that one.  I didnt even see this post.

smerf, you are fully aware that Mac OSX is an official Unix, complete with a terminal and all of that,right?

[Arkhan]

Who using anything but GNOME anyways?!

Linux is OK, nowadays most things just up and work upon install, but all the stuff *I* personally have / want to use, don't run so great in Linux.

I go with Fedora instead of Ubuntu, because Ubuntu is too brown for me.  Brown is boring and ugly, and the new screens i saw look like an OSX ripoff.  I do not approve .

[Arkhan]

ah, yeah.

When I need lightweight I use xfce, its got a little mouse for a logo, and I like those.

im mostly anti KDE.  Never cared for it.

[Arkhan]

Enlightenment is about as lightweight as xfce but far prettier and imho more conducive to workflow (YMMV).

yeah, I saw that.... but I am bias towards things with mice/rats on them, lol.


If mac OSX suddenly had a rat for a mascot, id be in line to buy a mac probably... :roflmao:

[Arkhan]

Virtualbox and an old copy of XP is far more compatible than WINE will ever be.  I can even fire up that foul piece of software known as Access, cursed thing that it is.

vbox doesnt deliver as good for the high end 3D gaming experience

[Arkhan]

Saying the features have been around is well and good, but....

can you REALLY say, Windows 3.1 was a sleek, customizable dreamOS?

quicklaunch isn't nearly as streamlined as Win7s task bar.  Hell now the taskbar works like tabbed browsers almost, and has alot more to it than quicklaunch.

snap is a bit easier than the ol' Tile the Windows bit.   Especially if you have more than just the TWO windows you want to use open...  

and the whole file sharing thing has always been a giant PITA, and the send-to thing isn't exactly apparent.

You have to remember the OS isn't aimed strictly at people who know what the hell they are doing .   There are confused newcomers also.


and people who weren't using computers when the features were "new" back with Win95.

[Arkhan]

They do it because my grandmother doesn't know what a service (or deamon or detached process et al) is, let alone what something like the "Application Layer Gateway Service" serivce does. The same principle applies to everything else Windows "disappears."
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yerp.

and the people who are interested enough in the disappeared stuff, should have the knowledge handy to find out where it is hiding.  If not, they shouldn't be worrying about it.