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Re: Amiga 500 - KS 1.3 boot from internal IDE
« on: December 10, 2023, 09:47:56 PM »
Hi all!

IN SHORT: I NEED THAT SOME GOOD HEART SEND ME THE PATCHED KICKSTART 1.3 WITH THE HARD DISK BOOT PATCH....  (more info below)

I've successfully built and installed an internal IDE hard disk in my A500. BTW For anybody who wish to do the same, I'm leaving here three links about what I've found on the web and I used to build mine:

https://www.mklboards.fi/ide/a500ide.html (original project, I believe...?)
https://modelrail.otenko.com/c64amiga/amiga-500-internal-ide-port (a very good and useful tutorial, read it!)
https://www.pcbway.com/project/shareproject/Amiga_500_IDE_Emulator.html (the PCBway page, for lazy boys LOL)

NOTE: I used a 4 Gb D.O.M. (disk on module) that fits perfectly above the KS ROM. I also connected a +5V to the pin #20 of the HDD connector, so the DOM gets the power directly from the PCB and there's no need to add wires and solders on the Amiga main board.

I also transferred the WB 1.3 onto the HDD and made a minimal floppy boot (it begins booting by FDD and then load the WB from the HDD).

But the final cut would be a full boot from HDD, without FDD.

There are some instructions about how to patch it. I followed the instructions, and I got a KS 1.3 patched, but it has some errors and when I slap it into an EPROM, it doesn't work on my A500.
I tried many times, followed many instructions, apparently I did everything right (but of course there's something wrong there).

I have an Amiga 500, so I'm supposed to be authorized to own a KS 1.3.

Anybody that owns the patched KS 1.3 that boot directly from HDD would be so kind to share it with me?

Thanks in advance!
Giovi

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Re: Amiga 500 - KS 1.3 boot from internal IDE
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2023, 09:23:48 AM »
I know... but if you have the file, can you kindly send it to my email address, atacama1968 at gmail, of course dotcom?

Even sending it by email, is same thing.
If I recall, there was a patch. I remember downloading it an using it to inject 3.1 scsi.device into 1.3 rom.

Can't remember where I got patch from. As it was around 15 years ago.

EDIT:- You could just use Remus and romsplit.
Pull apart KS1.3 and KS3.1 and build a 512kb ROM with all modules from 1.3 and add scsi.device.
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Re: Amiga 500 - KS 1.3 boot from internal IDE
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2023, 04:49:50 PM »
Hi. Amiga scsi.device won't work with the two chip ide interface, it uses "ide.device"
I don't know if ide.device is compatible to put in to ks-rom.
IDE68K on the other hand is supposed to be clone of A600 ide, but it is not certain if scsi.device will work when combined to KS1.3. I haven't tried it myself.
In this video it was tried and I think there was some problems https://youtu.be/RwpNdzTakyI

Question is, whats on the floppy disk to mount it. If it is ide.device. Then could use remus to insert it into rom instead of scsi.device.

I understand, but I do have an Amiga 500 with the Kickstart 1.3, so this wouldn't be a copyright violation, don't you agree? If I hadn't, why I was trying to find a modded KS 1.3 ?

I tried to do patch it but I went wrong somewhere, so I got an invalid KS that simply doesn't work on my A500.

You tried Remus? and also this? or this? or this, just interested in patchig bit.
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Re: Amiga 500 - KS 1.3 boot from internal IDE
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2023, 09:00:04 AM »
I'm trying to understand what Remus is and how it would help me. Sorry, I'm quite a newbie about Amiga and I don't know much of it; for that reason I was trying to find someone that would send me a modded KS .bin file

Look at Remus guide, it explains how to make a rom.
Same with Romsplit.
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Re: Amiga 500 - KS 1.3 boot from internal IDE
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2023, 01:17:41 PM »
You are correct. The Amiga does NOT use Windows Filesystems to boot. You have to make sure it’s at least the native FastFileSystem or you can use alternatives such as PFS3 or SFS.

I would agree, its booting with floppy, due to floppy proberly loading the FAT32 filesystem and then executing whats on drive.
Which wont work without floppy as machine cant see drive, until drivers are loaded and mounted.
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