Hey, CeBIT is just around the corner!

[JurassicCamper]

sgm wrote:
Hi all.

Could any of the Hyperion ppl confirm/deny that Amiga OS4 will be launched in ... *8* days?  :-o

Mind you, not if it's finished, 'cause I already know that answer  ;-)

Thank you guys.

Its not finished.... Beta testing is being done so far on the CSPPC.

There will be NOTHING to show at ce-bit....
Like there was NOTHING delivered at christmas......

This is not a troll but facts.

Christmas A1 XE's.... Been & Gone

Motorolas Blaimed

Mid Jan A1 XE's.... Been & Gone

New Artica S Revision

End of Jan "Some might Roll over into February"

Never Materialised

Feb 24th they will ship from the factory....

They are all built..... But they dont ship!!!

According to Alan they should be shipping This week but they are not.

Reason....U-Boot for the End user XE's isn't even finished.
Like OS4 is not finished.

When will the A1XE's ship ? .... Ask hyperion they are writing U-Boot. It was supposed to be finished last week but thats holding up the A1 delivery.

Feel free to correct me if i'm wrong and you have given the final code to alan to get the roms burn't.

CE-Bit if they go all you'll get is UAE & Debian running 68K 3.9 with a few buggy OS4 Modules.

[JurassicCamper]

Wrong. I have that on my desk since weeks. Stop making things up.

I'm not making things up. Just putting into my own words what i read. If it has been finished for weeks then why did alan say on the 25/02/2003 that he was still waiting for the final version to get the roms blown.

Feel free to correct me if i'm wrong and you have given the final code to alan to get the roms burn't.

I hereby correct you.

Thank you for pointing out is is finished. And if it has been finished for weeks, then the boards should be shipping by now right ? :-?  :-?  :-?

[JurassicCamper]

8 Days togo.....

Better pull your finger out and put in a bit of overtime.

Everbody has their limits on how long they will keep believing $#!+€ like  this.

With the AmigaOne now shipping and AmigaOS4.0 in its final stages of development and testing, the time has come to begin letting the rest of the world know the good news, that the Amiga is alive, well and ready to let the World have fun with computing again.

We all know that the current hard core of Amiga users is not enough to build a sustainable and thriving community. We have to appeal to those who, for whatever reason left the Amiga months and years ago but who still retain a fondness for their old platform. Whether disillusioned with their existing offering, looking for a new way or simply wanting to return, the marketing for the reborn Amiga must concentrate itself on these people, the five million or so who once owned an Amiga and who could do so once more.

The last six months has seen us experimenting with presence at various multi-format shows and nuturing relationships with TV, web and paper publications in order to test the waters and to set out our stall for the big push forwards. Even in this informal process, the response has been fantastic, whether in the US, the UK, Europe or Australia. People remember the Amiga and want it back.

We have taken all this research and, in conjunction with Amiga developers, retailers, user groups, publications, Amiga Inc, Eyetech and Hyperion have decided that we will concentrate on four official large scale multi-format shows around the globe, in order to maximise our presence, message and exposure. This will compromise a show roughly every quarter, one for Europe, one for the US and Canada, one for the UK and one for the Antipodes (Australia, New Zealand and Asia).

The first of these shows will be the official launch of the AmigaOne and AmigaOS4.0, to occur at the CeBit show in Germany in March (and before anyone asks, this does not mean this is the release date for AmigaOS4.0, it means that CeBit will be the public launch of it). With the huge exposure and attendence that CeBit brings in, and being in Germany, one of the spiritual homes of the Amiga, we think this an appropriate and exciting venue.

In addition we will support several other important national shows on a cooperative basis with the dealers, user groups and organisations in those countries. Commitments have already been given to attend the SINTEP show in Toulouse, France in April 2003, and at least one of the Micromart shows in Birmingham, UK.

We will also support local dealers and organisers of the main Amiga user group shows worldwide (subject to fitting in with the schedule of the larger shows above) such as the Alt-WoA and WoA-SE shows in the UK, as well as the main shows in France, Germany, the USA and Canada. If you currently - or would like to - organise such a show during 2003 and would like Amiga Inc, and/or Hyperion and/or Eyetech to attend please contact us as soon as early as possible during the planning stage. Given the limited resources we all have, and the cost and complexity of planning for the quarterly shows, we cannot guarantee attendence but we will do our best to support the community wherever it gets together to enjoy the Amiga platform.

So much for 2003 - what about the remainder of 2002, and in particular the Aachen show? We have all, both as individual companies and together, thought long and hard about this show. However decided that the timing could not be worse from all our respective points of view. Eyetech is committed to delivering the Earlybird systems for Christmas that week and Amiga Inc is fully occupied fulfilling an AmigaAnywhere contract, and product launch. Whilst visiting with all of you is important, we believe that it is more important to ship products right now, and we simply can not work the show into our schedules.

We wanted to share this with you because many in the community have asked the same questions that we have asked ourselves. How will the community grow and thrive? It can only do so through increased sales, and that means increased awareness. As we move from survival mode to growth mode, the small, local shows, however much fun cannot provide this level of exposure and awareness. By marching proudly and strongly into the mainstream shows, and taking the community with us, we are announcing that we are back, once and for all.

Have no doubt that after 8 years of darkness, 2003 will be the year that the Amiga once again makes the World remember that there is a better way.

Thank you, as ever, for your continued support and commitment.

Bill McEwen and the team at Amiga
Ben Hermans, Hyperion
Alan Redhouse, Eyetech

20-11-2002

[JurassicCamper]

Rouge wrote

I don't make official statements. All I did (and I am growing tired of repeating myself) is point out some false claims in JurrasicCamper's post. Nothing more, nothing less. If you have more questions, I suggest you direct them at Amiga Inc.

Why dont you answer the question then. Saying my point about the firmware not being done is wrong.

Well if it is done, I stand corrected, but answer me this then why did the A1-XE G4s not ship on the 24 Feb 2003

There are 3 working Linux distros working on the XE so thats not the reason.

The boards have been built so thats not the reason.

I have respect for you are doing. But lets just get one thing straight.

Alan posted on the DEV list on the 25 Feb 2003 @ 18:18 Hours that......
Hyperion would be sending the final firmware by friday. (28 Feb 2003).

So at that time the firmware was not finished. There has been nothing to contradict this statement appart from you saying that it has been finished for weeks.

Now I dont disagree that there is a version of u-boot to get the board going.

It may not be the final version, but if you are saying its been finished for weeks and alan said he expected delivery 2 working days ago then someone is telling porkies and it aint me.

Care to explain ?

[JurassicCamper]

- I was offended by the "buggy OS 4 modules".

If its still in beta it must still have a few bugs.
I see how that could offend... sorry :-D

I can accept that people are frustrated. So am I. Like I said before the community doesn't pay my bills.

We are fed up, fed up to the point were we can hang on no longer. Missed deadlines, broken promises. Escom, Viscorp, Gateway, Amino.

2000
Nov 2001... 3 months
Dec 2002... with out fail for the doubters
Jan 2003... Motorola
Feb 2003... We waited for the new Artica
Mar 2003... Whats the excuse now
Apr 2003... Another
May 2003...
Jun 2003... etc etc etc

Its been crap all off it.

I typing this on an a1200 with its mediator, network card and voodoo 3 held in place with cable ties, in a hacked together pc tower.

The family needs a new computer. I keeps saying oh hang on. Hang on. Hang on. They want a new PC.
For Word Excel and the internet.

Dont give me this crap about we arnt the ones that pay your bills.

We are your future customers. With out us you will have no one to buy your products.

I want you to suceed so I can buy your games, SDK and office ports if you take them on but dont mess us about.

If they sell 2000 A1XEs thats £1 Million UKP + Vat Eyetech will take.

I would say at least a third off that has got to be profit, split between eyetech, amiga and hyperion.

Folks if you feel you are being pissed about vote with your wallet. 200 Cancelled orders will cost them £100000 UK

[JurassicCamper]

Rogue wrote:
Where did I say it was finished for weeks? I said the new Articia sillicon was finished since some weeks. If you want to know, I sent out the firmware on tuesday.

I appologise I miss read your posting. I thought you was refering to u-boot. My sincere appologies.