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Re: New A-EON Sound Card for Classic Amigas
« on: March 06, 2014, 09:48:00 AM »
Sorry for noticing the card so late. Hopefully it is not too late to contribute:

Questions:

Will this card have drivers for both OS3.9 and OS4.1 Classic? I ask this because I have Solo-1 in Mediator for them and Terratec 512i for better sound for OS3.9 only. So I would be happy to buy this to replace them both.

Is that connector on top left this: HD Audio connector (F - Audio) which helps those who build their Amiga to modern PC cases could use the audipanels included. I just built a adapter cable to connect A4000 and Solo-1 sound card with 3.5mm plugs to LIAN LI PC-D 600 F- AUDIO cable.

How much address space will this card consume? I have A4000 + Mediator and Radeon 256MB+ZorRAM 256MB+X-Surf 100+Solo-1+Terratec 512i consumes so much address space that I can't use Picasso IV and Elbox FastATA4000 VI with them at all.


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Changing that white connector to 90 degree one would help those who have many Zorro cards and this goes under some other card.

Would be a good idea to have silkscreen saying "AMIGA FRONT SIDE or AMIGA REAR SIDE" and pointing to their directions to avoid plugging the card to Zorro in a wrong way. This would also help with MEDIATOR 4000D MK-II where "THIS SIDE UP or THIS SIDE DOWN" might give wrong impression if Mediator is installed to customized case with card brackets pointing down like it is for me.

For those who speculate on the price, I'm pretty sure that it will be more expensive than ZorRAM 256MB made by same authors, which did not require any driver coding. Depending on the price, I will buy 1-3 for my own use.

For the one who said his is only for A2000/A3000/A4000, you forgot that many A1200 users have tower cases and bus expansions to be able to use Zorro cards and even PCI cards. I think there is a great market it compated to many other Amiga hadware.

After this I would like to see some new graphics card for Amiga Zorro and some A3000/A4000 CPU card that would make Cyberstorm PPCs less must for OS4.1 Classic users. There are already enough new acceletator cards for A500/A600/A1200.
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Re: New A-EON Sound Card for Classic Amigas
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2014, 12:49:30 PM »
Nice video NovaCoder! Seeing that already answered something I asked too. I wonder why your oscillator is socketed. Testing different clocks or it came late after the sample card arrival maybe?

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OS 4.1 for the Classic will be supported, yes. I got a CS-PPC specially for my A4000 at work so now it has to be done :)

Good, but is this a promise to code driver suitable for OS3.9 too? Support for both OS3.9 (for gaming) and support for OS4.1 Classic (for some utilty) is needed to enlargen the market. Just like it is done with X-Surf 100.

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No, that's the JTAG connector, sorry! If you have a front panel connector which comes out as separate plugs rather than a block, though, you can still connect it that way.

Yes, but F-AUDIO connector is already more common in new computer cases. There are no adapters for F-AUDIO to 3.5. I have searched ebay a lot for this one and ended up ordering some cheap heaset adapter, chopping other end off and soldering 10-pin male pin header to make adapter. This is an adapter AmigaKit should make too and sell it.  

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I think from memory it's 64KB. It's not a lot.

I have a table somewhere where I have collected how much my Zorro and PCI cards consume. I want to link it here when I find it.

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I use a ribbon cable, which just about fits, but yes. Maybe Matthew can comment (I'm only the software guy :) )
Indivision AGA 4000 MK II has 90 degree flat cable connector. 90 degree connector is not much more expensive, but if using soldering wave machine techology for bottom side solders it has to be guaranteed that the PCB will not "drink" from the solder wave and get solder inside plastic frame, but this is only the concern of electronic factory where you produce them.

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I think the board is already screened, but maybe in the next version? Need to ask Matthew.
Silkscreen always increases the price and both sides silkscreened is even more expensive, but it always gives more professional look and useful instruction and the most important componets numbers. ZorRAM is silkscreened so I believe the final version will have AmigaKit texts as usual, so adding some more text costs nothing.


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The ZorRAM retails at about £150 from memory - the Prisma should be much less than that.
If it will be cheaper, I'm amazed but won't complain. :)


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An Amiga Zorro graphics card is possible but drivers will be difficult so it won't be cheap. I wouldn't hold your breath on that one.
I'm afraid you should forget about a PPC card for the A3000/A4000 (or A1200 for that matter) - it's not going to happen, as they're just SO complicated. The market is too small for that kind of financial outlay.
Maybe then Zorro graphics card using some old chip that already has basic routines in kernel.

Now that you mention it, I realized one Amiga accessory I would like to have professionally produced: Cyberstorm PPC heatsink and cooler that has same block for both CPUs leveled in a way that 80-120mm fan would cool both. Also maybe on option of attacking a metal cradle to the heatsink to put 120mm cooler over SIMM sockets.
Previously I have used a hinge where a fast PAPST 120mm cooler is attached, but that will not get a surface touch of PPC heating with is lower than 060 heatsing, so PPC CPU will not cool as much as it would with a surface touch fan. See this.
I'm sure all those who own a very valuable Cyberstorm PPC would like to pay quite much for such a thing. The original PPC heatink and cooler are very weak and unreliable.
« Last Edit: March 06, 2014, 12:52:53 PM by Hanzu »
A4000 CR Rev D "Lian-Li Towered"+CSPPC 060 66MHz+Mediator+XSurf100 with USB+ZorRAM 256MB+Radeon 9200 256MB etc., A4000 original Rev B+CSPPC 060 50MHz+PIV etc., A4000 Rev B mobo, A4000T mobo+CSPPC 060 50 MHz, A4000T mobo, CD32, several A1200s, 2xA600, A500 Plus, A2000 Rev 6.2, several A500s with one ACA500+, Falcon 030, 1040STe, 1040STFM, 2xSVI X'PRESS (one MSX2+ modded), several C64s, 2xC128, 2x128D, C64 Reloaded MK2 and a big game collection.