AmiNetRadio 3.0 Released

[Brian Hoskins]

KennyR:

Since you're obviously in the mood for insult, Aminet Radio is a {bleep} program anyway so good luck.

Oh I'm sorry, you're offended?

In that case why don't you take more time to think about others you're offending before you send your posts and maybe people wont do it back to you.

On a constructive critisism note, the main reason I choose not to run AminetRadio on AmigaOS is purely because it's 68K based and really, unless you've got a hardware MP3 decoder, PPC is needed for MP3 - certainly if you're hoping to listen and do other things at the same time.  If there were a WOS version for classic AmigaOS then I'm sure it would run very nicely.

If you're the only person left in Amigazeux who actually runs an Amiga, and now you're also abandoning the platform, then maybe you should also think about naming your website MorphZeux, since it's obviously not Amiga anymore.  MOS isn't an upgrade for the Amiga platform, it's a change of platform.  I don't feel there's anything wrong at all in your decision to support MOS, but at the same time I don't see the hardship in also supporting the Amiga platform as well.  If it is your wish to support MOS only because of personal reasons then fine, but do it quietly and keep your flame-bait opinions to yourself... unless you want to look completely unproffesional all the time that is.

Just my advice.



Brian

[Brian Hoskins]

@AmiDelf:

I think it would be a whole lot easier to stop arguing about this kind of thing if there were less people like Kenny running his mouth off all the time.

That said, the less people we have in the Amiga community with that kind of sad attitude the better, so in my opinion he actually does the Amiga Community a favour by switching to MOS. Whether he is doing the MOS crowd a favour remains to be seen.

Personally I have no bad feelings towards MOS at all, I do understand what MOS was originally designed to accomplish (the survival of the Amiga platform) and I do completely understand the reason for the bitterness due to the whole AmigaInc V MOS affair, which in itself is quite sad.

Unfortunately though, due to this whole sad affair, MOS has been forced to re-invent itself as a new platform.  I will agree that it is Amiga-like to use, but there can only be one legitimate Amiga platform, and at the moment AmigaOS4 is it (if we're talking legitimate).  I would also agree that AmigaInc themselves have contributed diddly-squat to the new Amiga Operating System, that is also a sad affair, but the fact remains that AmigaOS4 IS the legitimate new Amiga Operating System and due to unfortunate circumstances, MOS has now had to invent itself as a "new" platform, seperate of the Amiga platform - even Genesi markets it as such.

I've no reason to argue with any MOS users, as far as I am concerned they're just Amiga users who went the MOS direction simply because they wanted to support what they assumed would be the next generation AmigaOS.  There's nothing WRONG with MOS, it's just a sad unfortunate situation which has created this bitterness, none of us can help it.  What I do take a distaste to is attitudes like that shown by KennyR.  As I said, if that is to be his attitude, then good ridance in my opinion - whatever platform he ends up moving to.

Just my two cents.

Brian

[Brian Hoskins]

That is an interesting way of looking at it.  Unfortunately though, AmigaOS4 wont run on a Pegasos and MOS wont run on an AmigaOne.  Hell, MOS wont even run on a PPC based classic Amiga, so whichever way you look at it, the two Operating Systems are severly seperated by this barrier alone.

Nobody wants to buy both systems (unless they're in a financial position to do so), and so the entire Amiga community is FORCED to choose between these two solutions.  As I mentioned before, I am not particularly against MOS - it's userbase is afterall a collection of Amiga Users who wanted nothing more than to see the success of the Amiga as a platform, and they believed (still believe) MOS was the answer.

The single, only reason I've not given MOS a fair chance to impress me is simply because it wont run on my PPC A1200.  I accept that the general direction is towards newer, more powerful computers for both the new Operating Systems, but because I can't afford to buy BOTH systems, I am forced to choose aren't I.  For that reason, you can't really look at the whole situation in your light unfortunately.

Regardless of what either of us say, or which Operating System is best; put all those things aside and the fact remains, AmigaOS4 IS the legitamate AmigaOS, and MOS is not.  That doesn't immediately translate to MOS being a lesser system, but it cannot be denied that the legitamate Amiga direction is OS4.

Now, as I said earlier, MOS wont run on my classic Amiga and I have already decided that I'd rather go the direction of OS4 which is for reasons of my own.  Unfortunately, I am unable to be impressed by MOS because it wont run in any form whatsoever on my classic A1200.  I can't afford to buy a Pegasos only to find out that no, I don't like MOS afterall and I certainly can't afford to buy both systems... so that's the difficult situation we're all finding ourselves in.

For sure, if one of the solutions was able to run on BOTH platforms (Pegasos and AmigaOne) then that would make life MUCH simpler and it would then be much easier to accept both solutions into the Amiga community.  Unfortunately, due to bickering on BOTH sides, this is not currently the case.

Brian

[Brian Hoskins]

@KennyR:

I did say in my reply to you that I didn't take any distaste to your decision to move your software to the MOS platform and not support AmigaOS.  What I took distaste to, as I have already explained, was your attitude.

You have a BAD attitude, and I don't like bad attitudes, same as most people don't.  If you're to continue with a bad attitude, then I for one am GLAD that you choose to leave the Amiga community, because I feel we need stinky attitudes in our community like we need an Ash tray on a Motorcycle.

Brian

[Brian Hoskins]

AmigaOS4 IS the legitimate direction purely because it is the only OS solution officially supported by the owners of the Amiga platform.  That is why I said that this fact cannot be disputed - it can't.

I did also mention that this fact didn't necessarily mean that AmigaOS4 was better than MOS or anything silly like that.  However, due to unfortunate circumstances which split the two solutions apart, I'm not able to try MOS at the moment.

Brian

[Brian Hoskins]

My facts are right - MOS1.4 WONT run on my classic PPC Amiga.  As you correctly pointed out, it's in closed beta-test.  I've also heard, and I've no idea what truth is in it, that MOS is not really seriously being developed for the classic Amiga platform anymore.  If it were never released for classic Amiga, I wouldn't be suprised.

But the fact remains, I can't run MOS1.4 on my classic Amiga - which is what I said.

As it happens, I wasn't using that as flame bait, you have turned it into one yourself.  All I was trying to point out is that the two "solutions" are seperated, which isn't an ideal situation because sure, if it DID run on my classic Amiga I'd definately give MOS a fair go

Regarding your comments about AmigaInc, I don't disagree at all.

Brian