AmigaDE for Pegasos PPC website

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Hi lempkee ;-)

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i wonder what had happend if someone did this to MOS or whatever..

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Mos ?, you are talking about MorphOS, aren't you ?

Well, I believe noone should have anything against that, at least not Genesi... as more sites and as more who talks about MorphOS as better you know ;-)

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Hi Glaucus ;-)

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Why single out Amiga Inc.... etc...

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Well, isn't that good you think... more sites given notice to and about Amiga & then also AmigaDE.... ;-)

I don't know where you got this with entrenched from... ?

 

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Hi teotwin !

1) like the de idea and believe it would add value to mos

Everything does, don't you think ?

2) want to send a-inc bankrupt

Why ?

3) just a way to "amiga" name on your product

Is there anything wrong with the Amiga name ?

4) not willing to lose face in public via a backdown or compromise

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are you bb under another name

No

And thank you for noticing about no personal attack !

1) actually i dont like the idea (in respect to amiga os) of de much myself. Good idea by itself but not in my personal vision of what i would like my ideal amiga to include.

Ok

2) why send a-inc bankrupt? commercial advantage of course, its obvious. Plus its also obvious they dont like each other so revenge or spite perhaps.

I cant se any commercial advantage in a-inc going bankrupt.

About if people like each other or not, I would like to say its up to each one self to tell and also who they dont like in that case.

3) again another commercial advantage, the name *amiga* is a well known name and has huge advertising potential, and as such is a good reason to be able to use it on products.

If you see it that way, I also do understand that you feel its a commercial advantage.

4) what i mean is that this fight has been dragged into the public domain and anyone backing down may be seen as loosing face, which would be a motive to continue the fight to win/lose (persoanlly id respect a backdown much more, and yes, from either side)

I dont get that, and would like to say its up to you who you want to see it. But would also like to say, thumb up for that you wrote that you respect a backdown from anyone.

Anyway a contract is usually signed between two parts :-), and also normally the aim with a contract is that both signing should gain something from the contract, else contracts should be quite useless and not many should sign any contracts at all... or ?

All the best.

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Hi Glaucus

My last post in this thread...

And just some points.

If you have thoughts about the website, you could;

1; Bring forward to them who created the website your thoughts.

2; Bring forward to anyone behind or involved in AmigaDE your thoughts.

About this with PPC. Maybe its depends on that Genesi is working with creating a PPC-solution ?

Also finally, if you have thoughts about contracts or anything about the courtcase, you could also forward your thoughts to respectively.

About sinister play I have no idea..., sorry.

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Hi Step :-)

Well, I said I shouldn't write more, but anyway, something fun can't hurt :-)

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If .inc would be close to bancruptcy and the IP and name could be sold off, surely they would sell it to Hyperion/Eyetech just for the heck of it. Assuming the stockholders appprove. Something like Be did to Palm, altough the name got ditched in the process so to speak.

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Why speculating in if a-inc will go bankrupt or no ? Do you think they are ?

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But, if both Amiga and Genesi does not approve of the terms of the contract, why not nullify it, surely that would be possible under US law ?, or is it just mischief on Genesi's side after all ?

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Who should gain from that ?

Also, when reading the thread here, and what some people writes, I got the impression that some people thinks its bad for the company Amiga Inc having contracts. Why is that ? :-)

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Hi again !

> No, i dont think they will go bancrupt, but it looks as if it is a common belief and i was merely hinting at other possible events.

Ok. Any more possibilities ?

> They both should be gaining from it since they dont agree, and it would make atleast one problem go away.

So you think the contract is a problem then ?

What is the problem ?

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Hi NihilVor

> I've been reading the posts with a grin.

Ok, thank you !

> You seem to buy the standard bbvr line that Amiga is not competition.

How do you know what I buy ? :-) I know that Genesi and Amiga are competitior, why shouldn't I know.

However thats no reason for not having a businessrelation... or ?

Who comes first with their os, I do not think plays any bigger role in the long run. I also know that many users, for now, of course is Amiga and ex Amiga users.

And some questions to you also as you make some statements;

1; Who is the Amiga developers that Genesi have tried to bring to court ?

2; Which are the attempt that bbrv have done for trying bancrupting Amiga ?

Cheers

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Joanna;

So you have choosed side then :-)

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He wrote courting, as in "uppvakta" or "smöra".
Sorry about the swedish.

Ok, thank you for correcting, I misunderstood then.

But for call upon then, if that was the meaning, is that something wrong ?

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Hi again Step

Ok, thats real good to look for new investors new partners for A1/OS4/DE and revenous..., lets start...

But, and please remember what I now write is not meant for you, so please dont take it that way.

And now here is something to discuss.

You did suggest that the contract should be nullified, and I asked who should gain from this and if the contract in itself is a problem, which if this was the case, considering nullify it perhaps should be something to think of.

The real answer is probably that nobody should gain anything from nullify, and neither the products A1 or OS4 or DE should. Considering nullify is just to say... we arent interrested and we are not interrested in ourselfs either.

The only thing that could be of any benefit would be if try getting something being made.

For going even further, I would like to say its Amiga Inc that dont care. And by doing this they also show that they dont care of either A1 or OS4 or DE, because they as it seems just say, lets the court decide, we dont care. If they did care,  they instead should have sayed something like... ok we have this damm contract, which could be seen as a possible businesopportunity, what can we do with it, the other part want something, can we sit down and see if we can come forward to something which we can gain from.

Can we get something out from this that should be a benefit for us and also for OS4 or A1 or DE. And thats exactly what bbrv seems to try to do, out from his point of view.

As what is common with contracts is that it is at least two parts that signs, and normally also that all involved should gain something.

I know and understand that things might change by time goes by, but that doesn't change that it always can be new possibilities, by looking into things and see how we can change and get something out from the new conditions.

And finally, in what way do Amiga Inc show that they are interrested in A1, OS4 or DE in any other way ? I haven't seen them doing anything at all.

All the best and Take care !

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Joanna:

Yes, it seems people tends to want to put people into some kind of camps for some reason.

My guess is that the most people can see advantages in different solutions, and that different solutions might fit in different cases.

Anyway, everything is always open for changes.

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NihilVor:

Last post now.

Yes, I also see that that the respectively parts in this case can be seen as acting as they gain something from if the other is going under or disappear, and usually this is also what comes up to mind. I could imagine myself in thinking that way also.

However I still dont think any of them have anything to win out from this in the long run.

As from my point of view, I believe we should focus on the fact that different PPC-solutions is developed. Normally in a market, when costumers see that there is several, or at least some different solutions to choose from, that will make more possible interrested costumers considering any of them. Maybe that also will attract even more possible players to come into that market in a time. That is what I would like to consider as an important factor. Also competition normally is of good in this aspect.

As for the rest, about Amiga Inc having obviuos reason for not wanting DE on Genesi, I leave this passing by for the moment.