I`m confused! Genesi VS Amiga.Inc....the saga continues.......

[Damion]

HMetal that's some interesting news...if A-INC actually is about to
start "rockin' it RSN"...then that's great...more power to ya
guys, and good luck.

[Damion]

@restore2003

No, not true. DaveP is a fantastic debater however, which
is probably why some people get riled up and post sh!t about
him.



 

[Damion]

@IonDeluxe

BBRV wishes to void the contracts between Amiga Inc.
and Hyperion/eyetech.

How can you "void" contracts which may have already been
"void" from the outset? Aside from which, I would assume
(from my "armchair" analysis) that a judge is most likely
to decide what is and is not "void".

Once that it done he want s to force both of them to use his
hardware, and if they dont then hyperion gets no lisence and
niether does Eyetech get OS4.

That's your 'hypothesis' of the situation...

This is called Tyranny.

No, it's called "business". Ultimately the entire point
is that customers have products, and someone makes money.
Everything else is simply a means to an end. That's how things
operate in this world.

No, he wants the only choice to be his boards his way and to
call his machines Amiga's for free.

Once again your hypothesis...and even if, so what?? Is
the Teron somehow holier than other hardware available,
that only it alone is worthy?

"The Name" was simply a product label for a dead 80's computer
platform...I seriously think some people overestimate it's
worth in the market (and I highly doubt BB is one of them).

Besides...'Amigas-4-Phree' sounds soooo much like a late 90's
era school charity drive...

There is nothing to dicuss with you. You made me aware of your
"requirements" to enter any discussion and they are quite simply
exhorbidant.As such they will never be met and hence there is
nothing to discuss.

Honestly dude I don't understand your reasoning. Have you ever
by chance read Sartre's "No Exit"? Anyhow, as long as OS4 is
still available 'soon'...and runs on something other than a
shoe...what is there for you bitch about?

[Damion]

--edit--

Pardon, double post.

[Damion]

--minor edits

@IonMane

Furthermore, the contract cannot be "voided" by a judge
until another party (read: Bill Buck) brings it to the court.

Wait just a minute, you are the one that said BB is going
to void the contract himself, not me. And anyway that sounds
ludicrous, I could bring rocks to the judge all day long, and
nothing would be 'voided'...i.e there has to be something which
meets the requirements of 'voiding' in the first place.

Nothing I have said ishypothisisit is what Bill Buck himself has said.

You said:

No, he wants the only choice to be his boards his way and to
call his machines Amiga's for free.

and

Once that it done he want s to force both of them to use his
hardware,

I must have overlooked something, becasue I can not find
where BB states he wishes to call anything "Amigas", although
there are hints pertaining to AOS being made to run on *the
Pegasos*.

Also, I cannot find any reference to BB wanting to "force"
OS4 not to run on anything which is resold by Eyetech, only
that their (Eyetech and Hyperion's) written agreements with
A-INC are void, due to the contentions within Genesi's (or
rather Thendic's) own contract with A-INC, which predate
both those with Eyetech/Hyperion and A-INC (so obviously, new
negotiations would be  necessary, and I don't see how that's an
astonishing revelation).

Aside from all that, your statement about "forcing them to use
his hardware" is somewhat silly, as if Hyperion specifically
*wants* to code 'exclusively' for the Teron, becasue it's just that
terrific?!?

get with the program bud.

As for the rest, you are simply not up to date.

You are obviously not up to date with this discussion.

Do you have any links to share? Which, by the way, is the
"preferred" method to educate someone on the subject
matter (as opposed to your above three comments).

[Damion]

Hi IonMane,

Thanks for playing, but I really have no problem with
"the facts" - they make perfect logical sense from my
standpoint, and from the standpoint of a business wishing
to protect it's interest and property. As far as what some
may be reading into these facts, only time will tell.

This much we do know (from the facts):

That Eyetech or Hyperion will end up feeling "forced"
is your speculation, and not fact. Where does it say
that Eyetech will also be prevented from marketing
it's current line of machines?? Also, that Genesi will
ever label anything they sell "an amiga", is, at the
present, your speculation - and not fact.

Setting up legit agreements and contracts after the fantasy
ones have been decreed null by a Judge isn't "force"...it's
called standard, legal business procedure.

"If" events play through as we can rationally predict, all
parties involved should wind up ahead...which sounds fair
enough to me.

Anyhow, IMO this issue is being taken WAY too serious...as
opposed to "the contract says x, the Judge decreed y,
therefore we're headed toward z...and we'll try to make
it good (read: profitable) for everybody."

[Damion]

@Ion

Continuing to twist my words into something I have not said will not further this discussion at all.
You have decided to trust Bill Buck at his word, fine thats your choice.

OK, perhaps I've been a bit of a smartass...and for that
I do apologise...however, I haven't intentionally tried to
twist your words. Regardless, it's obvious we view the
situation from drastically different perspectives.
Please be aware, though, that for me this scenario has
nothing to do with trusting (or not trusting) anybody,
but rather my opinion from the available information.

If you look at it from the angle of "contracts, judges,
business procedure"...there's nothing really fantasically
ridiculous about it, it's just "how things go"....or at
least that's how I see it.