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Offline Damion

Re: Best storage I can get? FastATA MK-VI 4000 CF/SATA
« on: January 06, 2015, 06:07:23 AM »
You won't get 10 MB/s with a Fastlane or 4091 and a Cyberstorm MK2, but 4-5 MB/s and some 90% free CPU (according to RSCP).* Raw transfer rate aside, filesystem benchmarks (like SysSpeed for example) are just as fast with the 4091 as they are on my accelerators with onboard SCSI, so the system "feels" very nippy in general use. For kicks I've even transferred a ton of files between my 4091 and DENEB in DMA mode (a no-no) and it "seems" to work OK with no file corruption or lockups.

Bottom line: Cyberstorm MK2 and 4091 work very well together, no complaints here. I'm using a CF AztecMonster on mine, also tested real SCSI HDD's and CD drives, all work fine.

The FastATA obviously has a higher transfer rate, but it eats all your CPU in the process - no thanks.

*The Fastlane can do a bit better (maybe 7 MB/s IIRC) if you fiddle with the settings, but then it eats considerably more CPU. Both of these cards perform better DMAing to motherboard RAM than accelerator RAM (some hardware quirk), but I digress.

edit: It just hit me, you might actually have an easier time finding a SCSI module for your MK2 than a 4091 or Fastlane, or at least equal chance. You probably know that the MK2 SCSI module won't work if your accelerator is overclocked, but is obviously the best performing option of the 3.
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Offline Damion

Re: Best storage I can get? FastATA MK-VI 4000 CF/SATA
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2015, 05:03:56 AM »
Quote from: mechy;781146
I have gotten 8.5MB/s off the fastlane z3. This is with the latest 8.5 roms(most the fastlanes out there have old roms).


It will do it, but when configured for "speed" there is considerably less available CPU (though still better than the FastATA obviously). Used with the Cyberstorm MK2, you'll get about the same performace as the 4091 (~5 MB/s) with 90% CPU free during the transfer (measured with RSCP).

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There are 2 different scsi modules for the cyberstorm MKII, one particular scsi chip will easily work fine with overclocking to 66mhz. I seem to recall the other is his and miss. One had a Qlogic chip and the other a LSI if memory serves. Benchmarks rarely consider CPU usage and its my experience that scsi on the accelerator almost always wins over anything else for lowest cpu use. Fastlane Z3,4091,etc come in second. As you say in daily use its hard to distinguish.


I've heard this too. From what I've tested here (with the one that's supposed to work overclocked) it still works at 57MHz, but not at 60 or above. The only difference I've seen between the two modules is the manufacturing date of the SCSI chip, which despite different "branding" should perform identical. If you look at the chip's datasheet, it seems some things would be seriously broken with the MK2 overclocked, so I'm doubtful this was anything but a rumor. Even if it "worked" I wouldn't trust it.
 

Offline Damion

Re: Best storage I can get? FastATA MK-VI 4000 CF/SATA
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2015, 08:14:58 PM »
Quote from: danbeaver;781317
I don't know what drive you were using, but with the CS MK2 SCSI I've gotten 8.2 and 8.3 MB/s with a Maxtor Atlas (SCSI-3 and adapter).  Rotational speed matters little here.

All my SCSI drives are Atlas's as the other, crappier makes have died over the past 20+ years.


5 MB/s with the 4091 or Fastlane (configured for lowest CPU use) in conjunction with the overclocked MK2. :-) You're probably aware, the SCSI module doesn't work with the MK2 overclocked, hence talk of the 4091/Fastlane.

There is an adapter kit you can buy, which makes it possible to run the '060 at 2x the busclock. So, for example, you could run a Rev 6 '060 at 80 or 100MHz, while the SCSI and RAM on the MK2 run at 40 or 50MHz. This should allow the SCSI to work with an overclocked processor. (AFAIK it's been done already by some members on the German a1k.org forum.)