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Offline Damion

Re: Update from Eyetech (after my review)
« on: October 23, 2003, 03:20:14 AM »
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A Mercedes is a Volkwagon under the bonnet.


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You mean Audi. Mercedes are Chryslers now, though more vice-versa, as we'd like to hope it goes both ways...


Mercedes are still designed and built completely
independant of anything Chrysler (essentially,
the original merger consisted of the Daimler -
Benz corporation 'buying out' 51% of Chrysler).
The official word was "the product lines
will remain separate."

From a realistic perspective, I imagine that
technologies will be shared between the two
where cost effective...but you will not be
seeing rebadged Chrysler products in your
Mercedes ala Ford/Jaguar. I imagine the closest
example may be the M class, but they aren't
"real" Mercedes anyway...if you want a real
Mercedes utility vehicle buy a G - Wagen or
Unimog. ;)
 

Offline Damion

Re: Update from Eyetech (after my review)
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2003, 06:17:02 AM »
@downix

Pretty cool for Chrysler fans! But you won't see
Chrysler designed drivetrain products in a
Mercedes (thank god!)...

@kronos

LOL! :) M-B tractors are a rarity over here :)
 

Offline Damion

Re: Update from Eyetech (after my review)
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2003, 06:16:37 PM »
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(and actually next year you will find Chrysler motors in Mercedes)


Downix do you have a link for that?? ...Chrysler is in
a much better position to benefit technologically,
...and I still imagine you will NOT be seeing an
American designed and built engine in a Mercedes
(or I will eat my f-ing shoe, I promise!! :)

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Already previously Chrysler-only features (such as polyheads) are showing up in Mercedes motors.


Well, the "polyspherical" head was basically
Chrysler's custom take of the "hemi", really nothing
special. Mercedes has had it's own "hemi" shaped
heads long before the "big three" (as well as other
niceties, like overhead cams/valves, use of light
alloys -even magnesium- and fuel injection (1954
300SL, or 1936 if you count Diesel injection...actually
you saw all of the above in the 300SL;)).

But Chrysler and Mercedes had been in bed long
before the "merger"...even in the '70's M-B used
some of Chrysler's A/C components. But my main
point is that you will not find a rebadged, American
designed and built Chrysler motor or chassis in a
Mercedes.
 

Offline Damion

Re: Update from Eyetech (after my review)
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2003, 07:12:09 PM »
Hmmm...no Chrysler engine in the SLR, it looks
like Mercedes is giving AMG "carte blanche" on
this one (besides MB build their own kick - ass
V8's). Believe me dude those snobby German
engineers would never have it in "their" cars..;)

Dig this:
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AMG Supercharged V8 Power

Under the SLR's hood lurks a supercharged V8 engine developed and built by Mercedes-AMG. Delivering well over 600 horsepower for 0-to-60 miles-per-hour acceleration of about 3.7 seconds, each SLR engine is hand-built at AMG's manufacturing facility. The engine's dry-sump lubrication system -- originally developed for race cars to prevent oil starvation during extremely hard cornering -- includes a remote oil tank that eliminates any conventional oil pan or sump, allowing the engine to be mounted lower in the frame for better aerodynamics and an even lower center of gravity. The powerplant is also mounted in a front mid-engine position, largely behind the front wheels.


http://www.womanmotorist.com/index.php/news/main/2431/event=view

http://www.twistgrip.co.za/cars_SLR_engine.htm

This is actually pretty cool. The old 450 SEL 6.9's
also used dry - sump lubrication (for a giant, 4 - door
sedan!).

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Now, JUST RELEASE THE FRIGGIN CHARGER!


Now we are in complete agreement on something!:-D